terrorism.

[Mauser 98K]

VIDEO: Fox News Links Al-CIAda To California Fires

Published on Wednesday, October 24, 2007.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=4594



Did al Qaeda start the California wildfires?
As more than a million people escaped the flames, Fox News anchors couldn't help speculating about a terrorism link to the blazes ravaging southern California.

"I've heard some people talk about this a little bit to me, but have you heard anybody suggest that this could be some form of terrorism," Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy asked Wednesday morning.

Correspondent Adam Housley said he's received "hundreds of comments" from readers of his Fox News blog speculating about a link to terrorism.
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and the stranger part is that the DHS is there and the FBI is there and the ATF is there, the DHS deals with terrorist incidents and the ATF has no jurisdiction in arson, but it seams like every time there is a big arson the ATF misteriously shows up, this is the second arson that the ATF showed up that i know of, the 1st was when all the churches burned in my state and now the biggest fires in california history, remember ATF, Alchohol Tobacco and Firearms NOT arson.

i wouldnt put it pastem to be involved in the arsons directly, remember who was in texas during the waco seige, FBI and the ATF and who was at ruby ridge FBI and ATF it seams like every time there is a big terror thing or killing of innocent people or bombing of a federal building the FBI and ATF are there, like every single ATF agant being an hour late when micveay suposably bombed the federal building, how did they manage that.

in truth was that congress was evaluation the need for the BATF for buget cuting so the alphabet soup agency decided to pull some crap so they could keep their buget so they set up some poor schmuck to drive a fertilizer bomb to the sidewalk, a 30ft wide sidewalk and park it there and detonate, any1 who knows anything about explocives knows that amonumnitrate mixed with desil or gasoline creates a low explocive or LE, it is used in blasting of rock all the time and every1 knows it ha to bve cinfined to do any damage there, and the blast would have had to travel 40+ft to the pillars underneath the building to blow them out from underneath and cut reinforcement bar embeded in the pillars.

it takes a high explocive HE charge placed directly on the pillar to cut thru the reinforcement bar in the pillars, check out how they demo buildings and you will see what i am talking about.


in fact ill post a pic of the sidewalk where the truck was parked so you can see that there should be a jiant crater there if that bomb was supposed to do all they said it done, al it did was chip the sidewalk.

and i went to my church when they was burning them and i saw a dark SUV speed out of the parkinglot, the same crappy GMC SUV that the ATF loves to play with, remember they shure swept that thing under the rug fast didnt they, i wonder who was really responsable, remember they burnt churches b4, and on national TV, the waco complex wasnt just a complex, it was a church called the MT caramel center, run by coresh as a religious retreat of sorts, and they held bible study and other religious meeting here, it was in fact a church, the people who knew the dividians called it a church, and the ATF and FBI burned it to the ground.

dont belive me , watch the waco vids that i posted in the other thread and you will see the flame tanks used to burn the women and children alive.

in it they say they introduced a non flamable gas to get them to surender, well the gas they used was CS, and there was children in the building, if any1 has ever been in the military and went thru the gas training and seen what this does to full grown men, imagine what happened to the kids.
and it is very flamable.

ok that got severly off topic, but info is info and this is about what we are up aganst.

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wow, I guess the media will link anything they can to terrorism.

[Mauser 98K]

ok here we go, exposing some odd crap.

here is a pic that a typical big bomb makes, big wide semisemetrical.

and knotice the building behind it, it has less damage than the federal building in oklahoma, this is the
Khobar Towers Bombing Incident in sadi arabia in 96, study the pic


knotice anything strange about this pic?

knotice the absence of a blast crater.

ok the top pic the bomb blows all the stuff toward the building and into it leaving most of the debris aganst the building, but the bottom clearly all the debris are strowed in a circular path infront if the building there was dibris from this building across the street and 2 blocks down on the tops of buildings clearly showing that a blast propelled them across the street in stead of the truck blast blowing the debris into the building as a proper bomb should.


where is the blast crater as in the top pic? and where is the investigation report that they did? it hasnt been released yet and probably never will.

i mean if the ATF is innocent and micveay did it then there should be no reason that the investigation report should be classified.

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What does that have to do with terrorists starting forest fires?

[katana*GFR*]

nothing but some people just like to push there opinion forwards while beeing oblivious to trying to look from it the other side...

[Mauser 98K]

has much to d owith the fires, it is all domestic terrorism, for i call it terrorism when some1 sets a blaze that kill people and wipes out mre than 1,600 acre and homes and churches.




and katana who is being oblivious, i mean people are so quick to downplay everything but dont know enough to understand they are being fed lies from cradle to grave , what are you afraid of? can you explain the absence of a blast crater? and dont try to change the subject again.

what info have you ever put out? how many people have you tried to inform? what can you tell me about the current events of this world? without looking at any other website, now tell me something inportant that you wont see on the tv.

what happened on the mexico\US border that should have warented a military response?



HOMELAND INSECURITY
U.S. demands probe
of border 'act of war'
Congressman leads crusade against latest Mexican military incursion deep in Arizona

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Posted: May 24, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=27734

© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com


WASHINGTON – The U.S. government is demanding an in-depth investigation of what one congressman terms "another Mexican military incursion" and what the Border Patrol agent on the scene called "an act of war."

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colorado, has led a one-man crusade over the incident in Arizona in which at least one shot was fired at a Border Patrol agent. Now, the Immigration and Naturalization Service issued a statement indicating the U.S. government is asking Mexico City to explain what happened.

The attack took place Friday night, according to Tancredo's Border Patrol source, along the U.S.-Mexico border near Ajo, Ariz. According to the unnamed agent, the Tohono O'odham Police Department encountered the Mexican army unit about 8:30 p.m. along the Santa Cruz trail inside the Papago Farms border patrol area, just south of Forest Road 21. The area is between five and 10 miles inside Arizona.


Main Entry: obliv·i·ous
Function: adjective
1 lacking remembrance, memory, or mindful attention
2 lacking active conscious knowledge or awareness

seams like i have a good memory after all and lots of conscious knowledge.


the above wouldnt be so bad if it hasnt happened time and time again and no military was sent out and no investigation was done,

Another armed incursion
on U.S.-Mexico border
'It is disgraceful that American citizens live under the threat of a foreign army'

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Posted: February 2, 2006
5:20 p.m. Eastern
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=48636

By Jon Dougherty
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

An American law enforcement officer and news crew in Texas have witnessed another armed incursion into the United States by men dressed in Mexican army attire, the second such incident in just two weeks.

As before, several men dressed in Mexican military garb appeared to violate the international boundary, in Hudspeth County, Texas, some 50 miles east of El Paso, local affiliate KFOX-TV reported today. There, the U.S.-Mexico border is separated only by a shallow stretch of Rio Grande River.

ther is a new 1 that shots were fired at patorl agents by mexican military in US hummer and US equipment, im just waiting for the story to be released.

and here is another report by the famious MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11226144



some1 want to start a info war ill be happy to take them out behind the shead and give them a spanking.

[katana*GFR*]

Mauser im not even going in a discussion with you.. I dont mix into US politics.. Why? because i dont live there, and what i see comes from the TV...

So i dont go speculate about what happened..

And im oblivious? Dont make me laugh.. I've seen my share of horror and terror.. More then you will probably see on the news.. I know the difference between craters and demolitions..

And what the hell is the US / Mexican border doing in thsi topic? You drag all kinds of stuff into a topic that started about the fires in california...

try to make up your posts next time since all i see is political extremist bull****
By going along with that you not only undermine your own country but you are nothing better then the extremists you "fight" against..

But congratulations, you just made it on my ignore list.. As the first person in 5 years of my presence here...

Reply with whatever you want, i dont care im done with your political blahblah..

[Hellfighter]

DHS & FBI have to look into everything it part of life.

i would not put it pass Al-CIAda to come up with this Id to do it ether.

old say; if you think it up so can they too!

big deal, Calif have wild fire all the time, fox's news reporters will say anything to get people to watch them, as for FOX news (more like jokers news) they come up with all type of item to push the ids it may have happen why? they dimwits news reporters totally.

[Mauser 98K]

Originally posted by katana*GFR*
Mauser im not even going in a discussion with you.. I dont mix into US politics.. Why? because i dont live there, and what i see comes from the TV...

So i dont go speculate about what happened..

And im oblivious? Dont make me laugh.. I've seen my share of horror and terror.. More then you will probably see on the news.. I know the difference between craters and demolitions..

And what the hell is the US / Mexican border doing in thsi topic? You drag all kinds of stuff into a topic that started about the fires in california...

try to make up your posts next time since all i see is political extremist bull****
By going along with that you not only undermine your own country but you are nothing better then the extremists you "fight" against..

But congratulations, you just made it on my ignore list.. As the first person in 5 years of my presence here...

Reply with whatever you want, i dont care im done with your political blahblah..

you still didnt ever answer the question, where is the crater that was supposed to be made by the bomb, and dont try to change the subject just answer the dam question mr i know everything about demolitions and craters.




as you said katana you dont live here, and so for you comeing into my post and start to call me ignorant and all kinds of **** when you obviously dont have a dam clue as to what the hell is going on, why dont you go and take a flying shagg you stupid arse chicken ****e, you havnt a dam clue as to who i am and what the hell kind of horror i have seen in my life,.

yes you may have been shot at or seen terrable things, big deal, i have been shot at and woopie freking do, i mean you really afraid of death when one day every1 will end up that way, accept it and things will be a lot easier, if you are born you will get to die, i will, you will, we all will, so what are you afraid of, how is some1 trying to shoot you horror? it is just speeding up the inevitable, but i have faith and if they kill me i know where i will go, for my sole is prepaired how is yours?

i laugh at all these people who are supposed to be christian or whatever they are saying they belive they are going to heven , theyknow where they arre going but **** themselves in the face of death, how can you belive in a afterlife and still be afraid of the inevitable?

but real horror is watching you dad beet the hell out of your mom and abuse your sister and mess with you, real horror is waking up and seing what you dad is doing to your sister and not being able to do anything about it, real horor is being draged out of the crib at 4yr old to the side of the road so your gandmother can identify a pile of hamburger meat that used to be your mom while she is under a 5000lb car and knowing your dad pushed her out of the car and did it on purpose, i have had my share of horrors so back the hell off.

the us border thing was to make a point that you dont know as much about this place as you thought you did that is the only reason for it being in here, the post stated that it was part of the question about what happened here, you would have seen that if you had paid attention, and my point was proved when you started with your crap of downplaying and avoiding the questions, and you compare me with the terrorist again ill track your ass to the end of the world and kick it for all time you dumb ass retard.


this is the typical crap from the ignorant side, if ya cant win start to flame and change the subject, but as you said you get all your info from the tv.

and where was you reading i was calling you oblivious? you called me that remember, proof that you cant gather the meaning of what you read.

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yep, they're all out to get you









........................... theres plenty of forums to talk about this bs... why bring it to novahq?

[Mauser 98K]

yup im paranoid, paranoia is cheap, it makes you prepair for things that even thoe they might not happen atleat ya tried in th 1st place.

but i dont get paranoid for myself, i get paranoid for my family, that is my pourpose for staying in this screwed up world, i am here to defend them if the time arises, and if i get deleted in the process then atleast i tried, witch is more than i can say for some who say this crap like , if you resist you will be absorbed, you cant fight the system, or they are to big ,, they can just sit there and get taken, ill just walk thru their house after they are taken and eat their lunch, sleep in their bed and use their shower.

[Hellfighter]

Mauser 98K
you ever think they out to get you soon?

not me there are million and million of people chance they go all out to you chance are low, more like they go after some big time leader or a site building that stands out then go after a small time person.

think you need to see a headshrinker doctor then think up thing to read.

they start some wild fire are very low there is no then to go after there, they like body count and large number of dead body's to talk about. making people homeless is not what they like to do there no then to gain from that.

guy keep your marriage in good shape and drop the scare it can break up your family if that all you can think about, will kill the love in your family fast.

pay the; bills, food, happy time with wife and kids if you have any, go out and enjoy life more. for get the terrorist bull it will destroy your love life and family may even break up. talk with your family see what they think of you and all this things you reading about? they maybe getting tire of it, could mean the end of your family............live day by day be happy you given a life to live and a family to enjoy it with.

[Mauser 98K]

lol, ive been to a headshrink, they said i was a text book case, but they never said what case i was.

but im not worried about them comeing for me, if they do i got stuff thatll peirce level 4A armor so that wont help them, i even got some armor myself and the added addition of a mask so their gas wont affect me unless they use the corosive stuff that makes ya skin bubblewrap , i got IR flood lamps in a seperate power source facing outwards on the house that will render their NVG useless but still allow me to use my crappy 1stgen and enough food and water to last a month,
my house is even on high ground and can see for hundreds of yards, and it is surrounded on 3 sides by water so unless they use boats there is only 1 approach,, i got double layered aluminum siding with foil sided insulation between to interupt heat imaging, and the way we got the cars in the yard set up it makes a bottolneck where they would enter and makes a nice defencive position,

got no wife or kids so no1 to hold me back.

ive even went as far as to range the enire area for acutised fire, so im dug in pretty good, that is only half my goodies so i sleep well at nite.

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so, I am lost. What is acually being discussed here? the fires? terrorism? bombs? the media? I read quite a bit and one issue led to another from the fires, then to the bomb with both discussions still open and no valid points.

No idea.

[Spazz]

[Hellfighter]

Spazz i think Mauser 98K beat you on name wise

[Mauser 98K]

lol, thought my last post would get negative feedback, not that paranoid yet, thank god, im not looking 4 them to bust in the door anytime soon maby even never, i just collect things that are military and love to do so.

and lol teej, i lost track of what was going on too, mostly just rambling.