If you had a cure?

[.DareDevil.]

Ok this is a yes or no, not a maybe!Also this is for tests on your or your child or etc.If you knew you were one of only men/women who could cure AIDS most likely for a really long time(100's of years)wouldnt you allow tests to help all the people suffering because they have AIDS?I know i would because if i had the cure i know i would be known for saving the lives of many who suffer the fact they have AIDS and may never have sex again or ever at all/having kids that want them!

I vote Yes!

[Spazz]

i'm sorry, but this had absolutely no logic at all behind it, and it confused me greatly.

[milk]

its a oxy moron,
it says if you had a cure for aids would you allow testing for finding the cure, but you already have a cure so there wont need testing to find one so you might want to re phrase this.

[Lucky]

yeah, this happened in the news
some guy "lost" AIDS
and he refused testing to see what caused it

[.DareDevil.]

No, Spazz what i said if you who are thinking why i posted this was they do have a cure but only oen man can give them the cure but he refuses to let them continue testing!If you were the only one alive who could help them for years to come would you allow them to find the cure thats inside you that took away your AIDS?Obviously this guy doesent want to help anymore cause he refused letting the mcontinue testing which is ignorant!

[Capers]

Well, they dont have a cure. Tests on this man and his immune system could help them find key elements that helped him rid of the disease - which could help specialists develop a vaccine or cure. A lot of maybes and if's are involved considering the complexity of the AIDS virus and how quickly it mutates.

The man in question spent 14 months depressed and suicidal after being told he was HIV positive it could be seen as understandable that he has refused to do the testing for the time being. I get the impression from what i read is that he does want to help and will probably eventually - he just refused the initial offer.

Personally I would probably do the tests, no matter how intrusive. But it's easy to say that while not in the situation. Like it's easy to call him ignorant and judge him for his current decision despite a complete lack of insight into the situation.

[Hellfighter]

you know if it was a way to drop it into the water supply and cure all the HIV or AID in the world i do it, being nameless as at it.

some times being call a healer is not what it all about, you may get sue in the end lose everything toboot.

[Capers]

Originally posted by Chief ADFP
you know if it was a way to drop it into the water supply and cure all the HIV or AID in the world i do it, being nameless as at it.

Well yes, but dropping such medication into a water supply would probably kill more people than it would heal - lets cross that one off the ideas list shall we?

[.DareDevil.]

Originally posted by Capers
Well yes, but dropping such medication into a water supply would probably kill more people than it would heal - lets cross that one off the ideas list shall we?

Capers what are you a freaking scientist?Listen if you looked at title it says If you had a cure?I never said technically they had a cure in there hands but they do know the man has the cure and you can believe as you must and dont tell me the websites fake cause its a news site and over 20 other news sites have it like msnbc,fox,and so on im sure!Your point of being he has the elements to help the mfidn the cure is basically the same freakin thing as my words he has the cure within him!That meant he has the source which is the main part they need for curing AIDS most likely!

[Capers]

I dont think it takes a scientist to work out that putting antiviral medication or some sort of vaccine for AIDS into a water supply is dangerous. And i was only joking around with that comment anyway - as chief obviously wasn't serious.

Why are you contradicting yourself? You claim to be talking about a hypothetical situation in what appears to be a retaliation to me - then you start talking about this guy and situation again.

Your words are not the same "freaking" words as mine, and if you can't see why then I don't care to argue my point any further with you. Spazz and Milks previous posts point out the issues with what you wrote.

My main point was, is that we should not judge him for initially rejecting the offer of further tests due to many of us not having any real insight into his individual situation. He was basically handed a death sentence 14 months before he was told he was negative - it takes time to get over that. I don't know how i'd feel about jumping right into medical testing.

[Hellfighter]

Originally posted by Visor*CP*/visor_dflw
No, Spazz what i said if you who are thinking why i posted this was they do have a cure but only oen man can give them the cure but he refuses to let them continue testing!If you were the only one alive who could help them for years to come would you allow them to find the cure thats inside you that took away your AIDS?Obviously this guy doesent want to help anymore cause he refused letting the mcontinue testing which is ignorant!

it be funny if they found out this guy really never had aids.hiv to start with then its as was a goof-up in the testing lap.

i really don't think he never had aids to start with at all, i really don't care what other may think ether of my say.

bottom line if he had it totally then he don't wish to have fellowship with his follow mankind at all, he no man of god at all. its a gift and if it was true he would be helping his brothers and sister of the world and share his gift to the world.

think he only out for the fame of it all.

[.DareDevil.]

Originally posted by Capers
Spazz and Milks previous posts point out the issues with what you wrote.

First of all dont bring them into your post cause they never said a thing pointing out mistakes cause there were none!Milk and Spazz both said practically they were confused on what i meant and why i posted this, not that i was writing a bunch of mistakes!

Chief the doctors ran the man on several tests and many other machines.Capers the complexity of the virus is well known and your not the only one who knows alot about it!

If they have come this far to find something that has the answers which will then lead to the cure of AIDS, then they can make something to put in the water im sure.

As for your comment about a cure and answer not the same thing well it can be cause they know what cured him was some kind of chemical.They know what the cure is just dont know which one of the chemicals in his body!Knowing the man he probaly has dozens of chemicals in him.

Heck he came from Africa and most of the indian tribes were knwon to always have medicines that would cure the sick and as far as we know Indians may know the cure since there ancestors wwere practically the first ones here in America when the pilgrims arrived!Indians are all over Africa so that may clear it up for you some!

[Capers]

I never said the cure and answer were not the same thing - this is getting boring.

I never claimed the complexity of a virus was not well known.

I never claimed I knew a lot about it in spite of your perceptions.

At most I was just adding some clarity to what was posted - not trying to incite an arguement over that point. It's clear that scientests want to test this man to find out what it is in his immune system, or whatever could have contributed to him shaking the virus. Information that could make a very large contribution in the development of a cure or vaccine. I dont think there has been any disagreement over that point, just confusion.

The main point i'm making, and that i'm going to continue to make no matter how many times anyone decides to ignore it, is that I dont beleive we can judge this man for denying tests at this moment in time

[Hellfighter]

will there big money here if the cure was release then all the treatment (doctors) will lose money in the long run.

Drug company and Doctor will lose more money, it could be ban like other drug are in the USA too.

for a drug to be release to the public doctor, they (the maker of it) have to pay out the nose to get it OK by the FDA. think its like 800.000.00 a pop for one drug to release to the public. we can thank the big wigs for that.

some times a cure is blackball into the dirt, for flow of money the get in for treatments $$$$. big drug company & doctors care more about money flow then saving life's.

in other countrys around the world they have drug's that will cure many things, but in the U.S they are blocked or pay off to keep it under the table.

$$$$$$$ there is more money to be made for treatment then there is for a cure. if you have a cure then it be release to the public to cure something less money is made off the treatment of the thing.

[.Simon.]

this is a random thread.

if someone thought they knew a cure then i would let them test it because two people in my family have had cancer and its killed one and is killing the other, so its somthing personal to me.

[zza1pqx]

There is in fact countless numbers of people in Africa who have antibodies in their system that suggest they have had HIV at some point in their lives.
The case of this man is unique only because Doctors treating his HIV have never seen an actual case that has dissappeared before.
There are other people around that could be and indeed are being tested so whilst I understand this thread, it isn't as big a story as the media would have you believe.