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Old 11-02-2005, 11:01 AM
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Were in the few weeks were the weather is really interchanable as we move out of winder and into summer (no spring to speak of really), its nice and warm one minute, and pouring the next...

Cant wait for summer though
The fun part is that our summer is like your winter
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:04 AM
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-38 good grief that IS cold bro!!!!!

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And thats the middle (well a bit south if you cut sweden in half, actually quite a bit more south, Live by the bigest lake in sweden) parts of Sweden, just imagine what its like above the polar circle in the arctic north And imagine the temps in Siberia which can go down to -70 C (note C, that would be around - 90 F i think)
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:05 AM
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And thats the middle (well a bit south if you cut sweden in half, actually quite a bit more south, Live by the bigest lake in sweden) parts of Sweden, just imagine what its like above the polar circle in the arctic north And imagine the temps in Siberia which can go down to -70 C (note C, that would be around - 90 F i think)
I know of the extreme temperatures in Siberia Silent and I bet you really have to protect your dangly bits when it's that bloody cold lol?????

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Old 11-04-2005, 06:34 AM
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I know of the extreme temperatures in Siberia Silent and I bet you really have to protect your dangly bits when it's that bloody cold lol?????

Warming Regards to you bro

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Its the face thats the worst your breath freezes to ice in seconds, and you will have ice cristals in the beard (if you have one) mustach (if you have that) and eyebrows nose hair etc And you wont have any fealing in your nose

So you shouldnt cover your face but i usually do it when im on a bike down a slope in those temps, but if i was without civilasation near by i would rather freeze then put something in front of my face. Same with sleeping in a sleeping bag when its cold (you probebly know this already but theres always someone that dont, like mike! ) you should always have your head outside the bag and not in cover or you can die.

The calculated survival time for someone whos not acustom to the climat up at the north parts of Sweden is expected to live for no more then 20 minutes. While a prepered and knowlageble person can live foor weeks, the most and hardest bit is water, thats the most likley way to die in those temps.

Infact, Ray Mears said him self that the Swedish army has the thoughest and best survival training in the world when it comes to cold places, quite interesting. And i remember seeing US Army Rangers or if it was Marines (think it was rangers) training in cold envirements, it was in the mountain area of north USA and it looked like a day care expedition compared to the Swedish. It was more likley to get sun burns there then frost bites hehe (US army rangers) where in Sweden frost bites (frozen body parts) is a comman part, where GIs have had toes amputated snow blindness etc.

GIs are put out in the wilderness without anything, just a kinfe and a steel they can make fire with and the cloths they are waring, at around a week. They will have no connection to any civilasation and they are alone or at tops 2 persons in a group with mil (Swedish mil is 10 KM, and mil can be both one and serveral without changing the spelling) apart, its also in training to butcher raindeers and hunt them.

The US training that the Rangers training involved food (MERS, or what they are called) and a nice warm snowy area with just a coulpe of days in those place (this included the test) and they are in big groups rather then induviduals or two.

That might be outdated though was a year or so since i saw that program about the US armys "arctic" training. And compare to the Swedish training it looked like a satire heh
Even thought it was considered as a world class training part (not commenting on the other training, bet that is world class of it, but the so called "arctic" training was a joke, we would call that a hot day in march )

The Sweidish army survival training is unfortently beeing faced out

Can still get a feeling of the training through Ray Mears (posted a link to his page with that course in another thread, its not even close to the real thing, you live in warm cousy cottages heh, no real surviving but you are thought the basics by Ray and Our (former) army survival trainer)
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:09 AM
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Why is the Swedish Army training being phased out bro?

Thanks for all the info!!!!

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Old 11-04-2005, 12:16 PM
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Why is the Swedish Army training being phased out bro?

Thanks for all the info!!!!

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The all big problem of all goverments (it seems) which is money

We dont have a threat so we dont need know how to cover our ass in battle in our own country aparently , we had a regiment up there which had the thoughest overall training aswell, if they had a lose button they would have a knife to their throat within minutes. They ware called "Arctic Rangers" they ware a guerilla force that was to protect the north parts of a threat and had guerilla training from all over the world, as the type of unit might suggest, they ware a guerilla force that operated in Arctic tempretures (down to -60 C) alone without any support for up to a month at a time without contact with other units. Thats what differed them from other Ranger units, they warnt a spearhead for other units, they ware lone and weare never supposed to get backup from anyone (besides their own regiment). It was one of the first regiments that ware canceled and i'm afraid that they will lose valuble knowlage if they do not conntinnue the survival training. The guy wont live forever
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Old 11-05-2005, 05:43 AM
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The all big problem of all goverments (it seems) which is money

We dont have a threat so we dont need know how to cover our ass in battle in our own country aparently , we had a regiment up there which had the thoughest overall training aswell, if they had a lose button they would have a knife to their throat within minutes. They ware called "Arctic Rangers" they ware a guerilla force that was to protect the north parts of a threat and had guerilla training from all over the world, as the type of unit might suggest, they ware a guerilla force that operated in Arctic tempretures (down to -60 C) alone without any support for up to a month at a time without contact with other units. Thats what differed them from other Ranger units, they warnt a spearhead for other units, they ware lone and weare never supposed to get backup from anyone (besides their own regiment). It was one of the first regiments that ware canceled and i'm afraid that they will lose valuble knowlage if they do not conntinnue the survival training. The guy wont live forever
It's ridiculous to cut back on expenditure like that Silent, it's probably just as neccesary now with the uncertaintity we face in the world today.

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