broken site

[Acid]

Hey guys,

I'm editing a site made by someone else, and there is a weird thing going on.

I need your help to figure it out.

When I use firefox to view the site, the pages all sit in sort of a different spot.

Product info, how to use, ear facts and faqs are all sitting the same. But about sits different and contact, countries and tv ad sit different than the others.

What the heck man?????????

Helppppppppppppppppppppp!



Thanks

http://audiclean.com/beta/

[Acid]

There are a couple of other strange things going on, but this issue is the strangest one.

[atholon]

HAHAHA!
I ran into this as well.

It is because of the stupid scroll bar on the right. FF hides it, so it jacks up the alignment. I just forced it to always have the scrollbar... my friend told me of another way but... I went the easy route.

[Acid]

Thanks for replying :-)

But how does that explain the difference between about and contact us?

LOL

[.Simon.]

I cant see a difference? :S

[.Simon.]

oh i see what you mean now ^^

[atholon]

You're right, that is only part of it.

I will have to look at your code

[Acid]

Originally posted by atholon
You're right, that is only part of it.

I will have to look at your code

I'll pay you for your time

Got an hour to spare to help a brother out?

[atholon]

Hehe, I will look it over at work

Don't worry about it.

[Acid]

Peace,

Soooooooooooooo I made this post, and ath came in and said he would help me.

As a boy I learned that teaching a man to fish rather than giving him the fish would make him a better man. Ath gave me a few fish, but I used them to learn more, and because of it, I have caught enough fish to feed the entire world!!!!

I am a better coder because you took out time on your saturday to help me out.

I said all of that to publicly thank him for his help

Peace,

Acid

[atholon]

NP.

I learned how to do this stuff by looking at NHQ's source code and CSS.
Nested tables are really old now and are not the best way to build a HTML template.

Check out http://csszengarden.com

BTW I would recommend looking into the "MasterPage concept" it will save you a lot of pain later on when you need to do this same thing.

All I did was take the HTML from on of the pages that worked and used it as a template for other pages. I had to add back the content and change some stuff with the links but it wasn't too bad.

[Acid]

Originally posted by atholon
NP.

Nested tables are really old now and are not the best way to build a HTML template.

So how would you build this site, being in the position I'm in, being hired to make changes to a site I didnt create?

[SilentTrigger]

Can't relate to sites but I hate to fix things in a system that someone unknown programmed, it's a pain in the... ..arm. First aproach is to debug the whole program, or in this case site. Then construct a plan on the best way to do what you ware hired to do without crashing the whole thing hehe

Thats atleast the aproach I take. Might seem obvious but is usually not as obvious as it sounds, many just look at it with tunnel vision only consentrating on the little portion of code that they think they need to change and they end up crashing the whole program and then stress really sets in when they need to start production in a matter of minutes, or in this case that they are losing wast amounts of money on a site thats not online because of something thats was overlooked.

Might be different in the case of sites as I have no large scale esperience of it, but I bet it's fairly simular

[Acid]

Originally posted by SilentTrigger*MFA*
First aproach is to debug the whole program, or in this case site. Then construct a plan on the best way to do what you ware hired to do without crashing the whole thing hehe

Man, this is really good advice!!!!

I normally jump in with the plan of doing each page of changes individually.

I never validate the code, or try to make it any better than it was when I was hired.

As I typed that line out I realized I may be short changing my clients.

I need to do a time analysis. My way vs Silents method.

[atholon]

Planning ahead and doing it organized will save you a lot of pain in the future.

I can't remember how many times I have had to go back and refactor my code. I think I am going to have to do it one more time

It sucks refactoring someone's code when it is all over the place.

The way I have it setup is there is a folder for each section on my site and subfolders for that section. One contains the process scripts and one for javascript.

I also have a template system so my CSS is all in one spot. I NEVER use embedded styles... those are a pain to go and change. You might as well just use the HTML properties.

[SilentTrigger]

Or even worse when you have a two PLC and two Robots (think of this as two different servers and two database servers) talking to each other, but communication between the two robots and the two PLC all go through one of the PLC, so all trafic is router through one PLC which handles one part of the machine and one robot, but also hanles trafic to the second PLC and second Robot.

The data sent between them was not ordered in any way, not the code either, it was spread out all over the place. Took me a day to figure out how everything was routed and to get one (yes only one!) signal to a robot with the programmed function. The customer had no problems what so ever with it taking time (was billed houarly at engineer rates and additional travel costs) they understood compleetly when I went through how the program was made and the trubble I had to debug it. We didn't make this cell by the way but they hired us to fix things that had never worked that they ware promissed.

They now love us. We get so many requests it's hard to have time with it inbetween all the cells we construct, build and program.

[Acid]

Right on Silent. Thats the type of service my customers will be getting from now on.

This virtual thinking stuff is awesome!!!!! I wish I could bottle it, and serve it to my kids as a snack!!!!!

[atholon]

hahaha!

[Acid]

So of course the client wants a total redesign on this site

So I have just gotten the first page in photoshop. Now I need to start from scratch to code it.

http://audiclean.com/beta/new/

I'm thinking to slice up this sucker. Make the mouse overs work and position the images using css.

At first I was thinking of using tables. But as I look at the design, I'm thinking to use css to position the text in just the right spot, so all browsers will see the site the same.

Does anyone have a better plan? Or any suggestions?

I want to do this one the best I can, with the cleanest code!!!

Any help is much appreciated.

[.Simon.]

template looks hot!