how can we shut down cheat/hack webpages?

[Genocidal~V*D~]

hi i was wondering how we can go about gettin any cheat/hack webpages shut down that provide hacks in the df series of games,im sure every1 can understand the problems being created in many of servers by guys who dont have the skill to compete on a fair playing field and me as a viament supporter of crushin all hacks/cheats would love to find out a way to get these pages shut down.

i was informed about a page tonight that i will not put the link to but its loaded with bhd hacks and i almost vomited when i was reading through it and finally decided i gotta do sumthin to stop this page from continuing to defame the delta force name by handing out these hacks

i also have the email to the guy that distributes these cheats and if i could find him and were he lives i would seriously go stomp his ass hardcore ( srry 4 language ) but this has got to stop and im hoping a few goodguys/gals out their will fight the good fight with me.

god bless the str8 players who even if they have a bad day of gettin whooped on,would never sink to this level

[Cujo>DK<]

Maybe you need to talk to the folks at ACG, they'd be the folks to ask. PM me and I'll give you the url.

[ST0RM]

y does he have to PM you carnt toy put it on a reply?

[Reticle]

Sorry guys, but you can't shut down a web site just cuz you disagree with it. Like it or not, then internet is a place where freedom of communication is absolute, and there's nothing you can do about that. If you REALLY wanted to shut them down, you could |-|4><>< them, but that would get you arrested.

[Steve]

the ACG has managed to shut down lots of cheat sites iirc.
they usually go in the angle of modified code which is against the licencing agreement of the game.

[-Tigger-]

the ACC is gone now also, 1 of the leaders was found using hacks and the abuse that was given, was a complete scam

[Acid]

Originally posted by Reticle
Sorry guys, but you can't shut down a web site just cuz you disagree with it. Like it or not, then internet is a place where freedom of communication is absolute, and there's nothing you can do about that.

Well you are half correct, if thats at all possible, lol.

You can "shut down" any website that breaks their providers T.O.S. Terms of Service. Its quite easy.

You have the link to the site. Do a who is domian search. This will reveal the ISP. Go to their site and read the T.O.S.

If the site is breaking the T.O.S., then just email the ISP with all the infractions, and where it can be found on the offending site.

Thats it.

AS an example, below is Yahoo's T.O.S. for their hosting customers. The first one, would be enough to get rid of the site you mentioned, in a heart beat. But I've bolded all the ones that may apply to a scumbag cheatsite.

You agree that you will not:

(a) upload, post, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, adult-oriented, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

(b) harm minors in any way;

(c) impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, a Yahoo! official, forum leader, guide or host, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity;

(d) forge headers or otherwise manipulate identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any Content transmitted through the Service

(e) upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that you do not have a right to transmit under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships (such as inside information, proprietary and confidential information learned or disclosed as part of employment relationships or under nondisclosure agreements);

(f) upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, rights of privacy or publicity, or other proprietary rights of any party;

(g) upload, post, or transmit unsolicited commercial email or "spam". This includes unethical marketing, advertising, or any other practice that is in any way connected with "spam", such as (a) sending mass email to recipients who haven't requested email from you or with a fake return address, (b) promoting a site with inappropriate links, titles, descriptions, or (c) promoting your site by posting multiple submissions in public forums that are identical.

(h) upload, post or otherwise transmit any material that contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;

(i) interfere with or disrupt the Service or servers or networks connected to the Service, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or regulations of networks connected to the Service;

(j) intentionally or unintentionally violate any applicable local, state, national or international law, including, but not limited to, regulations promulgated by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, any rules of any national or other securities exchange, including, without limitation, the New York Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange or the NASDAQ, and any regulations having the force of law;

(k) "stalk" or otherwise harass another;

(l) promote or provide instructional information about illegal activities, promote physical harm or injury against any group or individual, or promote any act of cruelty to animals. This may include, but is not limited to, providing instructions on how to assemble bombs, grenades and other weapons, and creating "Crush" sites.

(m) offer for sale or sell any item, good or service that (a) violates any applicable federal, state, or local law or regulation, (b) you do not have full power and authority under all relevant laws and regulations to offer and sell, including all necessary licenses and authorizations, or (c) Yahoo! determines, in its sole discretion, is inappropriate for sale through the Service provided by Yahoo!.

my $0.20

[.enfo.]

isnt it 2 cents ? lol
and he said he messed wiith the pff file to get rid of the black rings around the binocs
sure

[BADDOG]

I think it's really sad that such "cheat" websites exist but how can anyone really police the world wide web and put a stop to it?


Regards

[Systemkaos]

Originally posted by BADDOG
I think it's really sad that such "cheat" websites exist but how can anyone really police the world wide web and put a stop to it?


Regards

l33t hackers AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

[Genocidal~V*D~]

were theirs a will theirs a way,if these chumps make trainers ,well then why cant a few guys kill their sites

i cant stand cheats and id devote the time to kill off as many of them as i can because i am familiar with the licensing agreements that binds a webpage to the hosts rule and id have to agree that any cheat webpage violates sum law be it violation of a license agreement through the game and using third party software,or just plain being a hacker cause thats what they r when you rip off their pretty outter lining

1 man alone can not take on such a task, i have the link and the guys email i will look into what that previous post said about reporting them to the host of that page but i think the community finally should take a stand against this as its the only way somethin will get accomplished

god bless punk buster for JO,its to bad they cant implement it on all their games

[xergame]

GUYs you cant take down a site because it has hacks. even if it broke any TOS or anytihng. EVEN IF IT HAD UNDERAGE PORN on it. you cant take it down. Its up to the fbi, or internet cops " what ever they call them to do it. You taking it in your own hands is a really dumb idea.

[Systemkaos]

if mircosoft can then we can

[Acid]

Originally posted by xergame
GUYs you cant take down a site because it has hacks. even if it broke any TOS or anytihng. EVEN IF IT HAD UNDERAGE PORN on it. you cant take it down. Its up to the fbi, or internet cops " what ever they call them to do it. You taking it in your own hands is a really dumb idea.

Sorry but you are wrong. Anyone can report any wrong doing to the party being wronged. No big deal, just a simple email. Like " I found this on a site that you host, isnt it against your Terms of Service for this to happen?" Simple as that.

If a site breaks the T.O.S., the host is obligated to look into it by virtue of the fact that they have some T.O.S. they are forced to adhere to as well. This means its in their best interest to look into the sites files, and confirm the allegation.


Example:

You rent a car from Rent-A-Car City.
You provide them with an insurance card that is fake so that you dont have to pay for the insurance they provide, because you dont have any of your own.

You brag about this in a bar, and John Q. Public hear's you say it.

His wife was injured 10 years ago in a car collision, and the driver didnt have insurance. So he goes to the pay phone and calls Rent-A-Car City, and tells them what he heard.


So you tell me. Will Rent-A-Car City check his insurance? And if so, wont they demand to get their car back immediatlly?

Thats how its done. You break the rules, and get caught, you end up without.

And you dont have to be some leet geek hacker to do something good and on the side of right. If you think you have to have some implied power to get something done, you are sadly mistaken.

And yes, it is 2 cents normally, but I thought it was a bit long, so I added some more cents, lol

[Acid]

Originally posted by BADDOG
I think it's really sad that such "cheat" websites exist but how can anyone really police the world wide web and put a stop to it?

Regards

I cant answer that.

But I can say that you have to take care of you and yours.

So that means, if you see something bad, bust their butts. But you dont have to create some cheat crusade.

[Hellfighter]

will you can use "whois" use there url address it will dig up their host service is. who they pay to host their site 98% report they have cracks for programs in their site host will remove their site off the internet totally remove them.

hacks info: how to make viruses, trainers, Cd-cracks, key code generators, and so on. these items will get a ite taken offline for good. and may even get them into how water with the law too boot. spec if they have it for download.

it really counts who is hosting it, if its their owne server that is hosting? there not much can be done with it.

[Acid]

Originally posted by Chief ADFP

it really counts who is hosting it, if its their owne server that is hosting? there not much can be done with it.

Kinda true.

But they still have an ISP which has Terms of Service as well. A simple email to them is all it takes, no big deal.

If they are an ISP as well, they have rules they have to abide by as well. It just goes on and on. No one is safe do ing illegal acts online. Simple as that. This aint rocket science.

[Systemkaos]

you do realize people can set up there own ISP, or if your really smart, you can leech off of other peoples 1. wireless network 2. the ISP its self

but no reason to go that far for a cheat web site

[Reticle]

If they're getting decent hosting, they're not gonna have restrictions that could have it taken down. As for the law, it's illegal for you to take these |-|4(|<5 and use them on Novalogic's servers. It is NOT illegal for you to create these hacks. Once you own a license of the software, you can do whatever you want with it, so long as you keep it to yourself. It is never illegal to develop and distribute an application, no matter what it is intended to be used for. It doesn't matter if the app is designed to discreetly share kiddy porn, as long as you're not doing it, the only people who can be arrested are the users.

Overall, I don't care if these people cheat, as long as they do it on their own servers. If they cheat in public servers, I say mark down their IPs, and get in touch with some 1337 |-|4><><0|25.

[Acid]

Originally posted by Reticle
If they're getting decent hosting, they're not gonna have restrictions that could have it taken down.

Give me an example please

I wanna see this hosting service that you speak of.

Also, I am not disputing what the laws should be or what the T.O.S. should be or isnt, or anything like that.

My entire point, is that if you see a site that has something that you "think" is against whomever's T.O.S. that they are forced to adhere to, the "provider" will shut them down, in less than 24 hrs.

1 more example, since some of you dont get this.


I'm in the film/tv business. I went into a store in my neighborhood and saw that they were selling pirated CD's and DVD's right out in the open, passing them off as "real".

I informed the owner that it was illegal and to take them off the shelves. She thought I was crazy, and told me "if you want it, buy it, if not, so what"

I told her that I would no longer use her place, and that she better take them off the shelves, before I could get them taken off.

4 days after calling the local police, I was standing in front of my house with my kids, and a neighbor informed me that early that morning a squad of local police removed 57 DVD's and 351 CD's totaling in a $3500 lose (she had just bought them) and fines from the City managers office which issues business licences.


The moral of the story is simple, you dont need some hacker to stop an illegal act online. I'm not saying anything about the legalities of crackin and hacking games and making trainers or anything of the sort. Nor am I saying anything about those type of people being bad or good. Only about turning in bad guys.