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Old 12-20-2007, 02:49 AM
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HDD question

Okay, this is just a yes or no question lol - I'm not totally sure whether this is possible or not.

Okay, let's just say there's a person, who has a 40gb hard drive. It then ends up getting a little bit full. So he buys a 100gb hard drive.

Now, let's say the 40gb drive is DRIVE C, and 100gb is DRIVE E. Now, is there any way at all (in general), to have two hard drives in the computer, under one drive letter?

So the 40gb and 100gb one make DRIVE C - instead of a DRIVE C and DRIVE E?

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Old 12-20-2007, 04:09 AM
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:59 AM
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Follow up question to Scott, how?
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:36 AM
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Old 12-20-2007, 11:26 AM
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never seen that before.

a RAID controller should be able to do it if you have on in your motherboard, but AFAIK it's not actual RAID (0, 1, 5 etc)? but a function that it can do.
or you could use RAID 0 but you would have only 80GB in total.

plz correct me if wrong

anyone know of a 3rd party app that can span a partition over multiple hard drives? i think Vista can do it but not earlier versions.

tell us what you know scott

personally i'd clone the 40GB drive and transfer it to the 100GB
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:20 PM
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Yeah, raid but that's not what I was looking for, just in general like as Steve asked, one partition over several drives
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:46 PM
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personally i'd clone the 40GB drive and transfer it to the 100GB
I'd prefer that too - but don't you need something like Norton Ghost?

@ Scott, PartitionMagic? I've got the full one, so I could .zip it up and upload it (40mb lol it'll take a while). I unfortunately don't have the installer, so I might only have to .zip the contents up...

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Old 12-20-2007, 04:41 PM
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I'd prefer that too - but don't you need something like Norton Ghost?
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:49 PM
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i did it in the pass in windows manager
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1.) have computer icon shortcut on desktop
A.) right click-on it then click-on "manage"
B.) go down the listing to you see "Disk Management" click-on it
C.) see the second HDD right click in the gray faded area,

you should get a item to merge both partition as one.

i use to have partition commander from V-com.com that was long ago one can format the partition to NTFC or FAT32. or resize new partition into one HHD so it be like you have 3HD in one real HD.

some say you should use the main bigger size HD as the master and 2nd smaller size as a slave. think it has to do with the page file for the larger HD more to use for program software to use
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:58 PM
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Had no idea that it was that easy William, thanks for the tip!
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:18 PM
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Re: HDD question

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Okay, this is just a yes or no question
Thought it was yes or no

To have 2 physical hard disks act as one you would use JBOD (RAID with none of the features...) You'll have to check if your chipset supports it.. I know nForce4 and some newer ATi/AMD chipsets do.

This feature is built into Vista..
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: Re: HDD question

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Thought it was yes or no

To have 2 physical hard disks act as one you would use JBOD (RAID with none of the features...) You'll have to check if your chipset supports it.. I know nForce4 and some newer ATi/AMD chipsets do.

This feature is built into Vista..
Yeah it is a yes or no lol.

Ah okay. Thanks for the info Scott. Thanks to Steve and others.

Yeah I do think having the biggest HDD as a Master is more consistent...

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Doesn't have to be - my biggist drive is the slave drive.

I use it for all my personal data. The smaller drive is used for all my programs
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:14 PM
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Doesn't have to be - my biggist drive is the slave drive.

I use it for all my personal data. The smaller drive is used for all my programs
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:56 AM
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Why would you need to use the same drive letter for both drives ?
The easiest thing to do is to use separate drive letters for each drive.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if you use the drives in a RAID configuration and something goes wrong with one drive, all the information on both drives will become unreadable. (Because program data is spread across both drives)

Usually I use a small drive as my master, with windows and my main programs installed. This can be quickly re-ghosted if anything goes wrong.

My second large drive is used to store all my videos, images, music and games.
I also backup my files onto DVD-r/w just in case.

In the past if I had a machine with only one drive, I would create a small partition for windows to use. This could be easily restored if anything went wrong.
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:26 AM
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It depends on the RAID type you use. I don't fully understand it my self, all I know is that I can do it with my motherboard


But 1 type of raid will still work even if the second drive goes down.


I have also heard that using RAID it will downsize the biggest drive to match the smallest one on the setup - Don't know if that is true or not.



I wouldn't merge the 2 drives together - it will help keep things seperate if they have different drive letters.

Plus if you fill up the data drive you won't have to worry about it carrying over and filling up your windows drive.
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:56 AM
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raid 0 is striped and the drives share the data, so if one breaks you have nothing, but this setup is generally for speed.

raid 1 is mirrored, so both drives have the same data, just security really.

not sure what it goes upto but you can have raid 5 or 10 with more hdd's and hot spares that pickup if any drives fail.

for any raid setup the disks should be the same size, or you could add a bigger hdd to an existing raid but it will be downsized.
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:04 PM
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raid 5 is striping with parity.. this means it will strip acrross drives as raid 0 does but it keep a parity bit so if 1 of 3 drives fail the remaining 2 can rebuild the third one which failed when you put in a new drive. If 2 of the drives failed then you are screwed unless they are at different times. Raid and scsi are the same in terms of scsi 0, 1, 5 and raid 0, 1 ,5. The setup i would do is raid 0 on controller one for the performance but then do raid 1 from the first controller to the second so I would have a backup. Of course that could take many drives but then id get performance and integrity.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if you use the drives in a RAID configuration and something goes wrong with one drive, all the information on both drives will become unreadable. (Because program data is spread across both drives)
And that's what I personally thought... lol.

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Old 12-23-2007, 02:38 PM
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And that's what I personally thought... lol.

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This is true with raid 0 but raid 1 and 5 have data integrity. The downfall is raid 1 and 5 are slower in performance than 0.
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