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Old 01-19-2009, 01:10 AM
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meat: chicken, bird, rabbit, snake very good, not turkey its fatty food

stay away from beef its fatty same for pork as will.

deep fry food not good loaded with oil and fat

Plants veggies and fruits

fish is very good!

sea food like crap and other things very good for the body and heart

gator meat is the top pick for healthy meat goes....$$$$$$ poundage

horse meat is more leaner then beef too same for sheep and deer too

bear meat is very good too a bet gamey same for deer too

iron ration is good to nuts and berry
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:15 AM
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1. Trying to lose body fat and gain muscle I weigh 190 right now.
2. I eat granola/yogurt for breakfast and I try to have two meals with meat in them every day... and a protein shake right after I workout.
3. I don't really eat a ton, depends on what meat/food we have in the house.

I've been doing cardio for a while trying to burn off the body fat. 40 minutes 3-4 days a week.

This week I have kinda sucked:

Breakfast was usually a boiled egg and some bread.
Lunch was leftover stuff like chicken/roast beef (30 minutes after working out)
Then I had some protein bars.
Then for dinner I had tuna sandwiches (just tuna and bread)
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:27 AM
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granola/yogurt
you should look what they have in it and check online see what they really are as name goes

some times a item added in has a double stander then one people don't catch off the back!
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have one big meal in the morning and work the rest of the day off, drink a lot of water doing this!

190? how old are you?

190 is really not bad count on your age and body shape its in.

i seen some male who workout like crazy and they can build up a lot wight doing it, don't mean they over wight ether from eating.

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height and age counts how you should add up

check with Matt:
for you guys I'm an exercise science major in college, so if you need any nutritional, exercise, supplement advice, etc. shoot me a PM


if you are say 14 and weigh at 250 you have trouble
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:02 AM
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I am not "Fat" but I am not as toned or as muscular as I would like.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:31 AM
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ehehehe
i never said you was fat lol

age and height play in it a lot,

go do some body building things like dead left is great way to build the body up fast, but have some one help you do dead lifting both take turns at it.

power ball is all so good and playing sport like football they train really hard too.

power ball is like dead weighted down a lot, not really a baby ball ether when throwing it around can knock you on your @ss real hard they do this in the U.K a lot to workout with, in the USA it drop out a lot almost no one use it.

i seen some use the power ball and not looking or don't catching it right they get knock out from it

think the power ball is like 90bls or heaver then that

handling a power ball you use your arms, back, legs almost all your body get a workout training with the power ball

i for got the name of the game were you slap a rubber ball on the walls, gee its been years i done it, think they call it backhand, you ware gloves and sweat suit of some type and you or a buddy go about beating that ball and try to ether beat it to death or score by hitting so it go pass your buddy to make points playing it when it pass him and hit the floor. talk about burning the body up and a sweet working out as will

there is a zone down let the ball hit the floor and in front the wall there about 3ft or 4ft from the wall its ok let the ball bonce on the floor up on the wall there, any closer to you lost of points.
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1. Trying to lose body fat and gain muscle I weigh 190 right now.
2. I eat granola/yogurt for breakfast and I try to have two meals with meat in them every day... and a protein shake right after I workout.
3. I don't really eat a ton, depends on what meat/food we have in the house.

I've been doing cardio for a while trying to burn off the body fat. 40 minutes 3-4 days a week.

This week I have kinda sucked:

Breakfast was usually a boiled egg and some bread.
Lunch was leftover stuff like chicken/roast beef (30 minutes after working out)
Then I had some protein bars.
Then for dinner I had tuna sandwiches (just tuna and bread)

where is the veggies?
looks like you don't eat enough tbh
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:54 AM
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Yah I need to throw some fruit and veggies in for snacks.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:17 AM
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Yea i am trying to lose body fat and put on muscle, i really don't care about my body weight, i really can't say what i eat daily because its never the same lol

so any suggestions Matt on like what to do?

i normally do 30-40 minutes of cardio, or over an hour of racquetball depending on what i am doing, and i normally try to lift at least 4 times a week.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:12 PM
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dont over do the cardio if you want to put muscle on.
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:32 PM
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YEah I have heard that, and that I should keep my heart rate at 60% of the max.
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:58 PM
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body just ends up using ur muscles as an energy source. of course cardio is good for losing fat/burning calories, but it's not the best way to "lose fat and build muscle".

i decided to lose fat first and now the hard task of add lean bulk hehe it's not the fast way but i'm in no rush
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:49 PM
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fat turns into muscle if you do it right

and over doing cardio for me isn't a problem, i eat probably way more than i should during the day... lol
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:21 PM
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fat turns into muscle if you do it right

i can't believe you actually typed that!!!!!

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Old 01-19-2009, 05:48 PM
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It isn't just about eating a lot, it is about eating the right amount of good stuff.

Fat doesn't turn into muscle, it is used as a fuel source and the muscles grow by being torn, healed and so on.

Probably the biggest reason for me stalling early was not continuing to add additional weight.

I should be at around 230 on my squat but I am stuck at 180
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:57 PM
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and over doing cardio for me isn't a problem, i eat probably way more than i should during the day... lol
your body can only store so much glycogen regardless of how much you eat, when it runs out you body will start breaking down muscle for fuel.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:04 PM
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Cool thing about body building is that as you gain more muscle your body automatically starts to burn more calories so you don't really need to do much cardio.

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Cardio is something that should be done by everyone on the planet, just for general health. If you are a chronic chubb-dogg (like me!) then cardio should be a daily habit at least once, sometimes twice a day.

The key is in modulating the intensity and duration so as to positively affect your barbell training, rather than negatively affect it. The chronically chubby will notice a DRASTIC difference in the body's ability to process calories, especially carbohydrates, if consistent cardio training is added to a consistent weight program. Frequently, the chubbage will melt away while the muscle gets packed on. It is a natural characteristic of the endo-meso somatype to be able to add muscle while losing bodyfat if calories are clean, protein is relatively high, and cardio is performed daily. In many cases, adding some cardio will actually enhance barbell progress because of the positive "CHO-useage" effect cardio has on many naturally bulky trainees.

Skinny dudes REALLY need to be careful of this, however. A brisk walk is all that is needed, just enough to keep the heart healthy. Mesomorphs, being the bastards that they are, can probably get away with very little cardio at all, and they will burn bodyfat simply by switching from 2% to 1% milk (Yes Hola, I'm talking about you...bastard!)

The biggest mistake a novice can make is to undertake a new barbell training routine and then add in a ton of high intensity cardio. This will exhaust the trainee far earlier than what would normally occur, and the hindered muscular progress will be reflected in hindered metabolic increases. More muscle = faster metabolism = more calories and fat burned during the day.

Burning calories through exercise is 1 way to get leaner. Adding muscle, which increases BMR, is another. Since the novice will experience the most rapid muscular bodyweight increases, it makes sense for them to focus on barbell training rather than excessive cardio, even if they are chubby.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:18 PM
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they do say that if you do weight lifting that you should do cardio and vise versa or it won't help much, and i have heard that weight lifting does burn more calories
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:20 PM
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Yeah you're supposed to do do both but for skinny guys they should do less intense cardio.
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If you're skinny then you should be more focused on eating.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:27 PM
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science is not the best way to do thing. i like the old ways best
work on all area of the body and not focus on the upper body over all area of the body; lower, midway, upper area of the body

i seen some who only work on the upper part of the body look beefup and look like a freak at the beach! do to their legs look like tooth picks

have a good around meal and don't try to think what you really need to finds a shortcut on meals, there is none

you think in the 1920-1940s they had a shortcut on meal to eat to bulk up on body to build their bodys up NO

enjoy working out and have fun doing it.

shortcuts never payoff in the end, power meals is not the way.

i say stay away from powerbars
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