you all set for DVD Blu-ray or HD DVD?

[Hellfighter]

there only four makers (Brands name) that make the DVD-Drive that support the Blu-ray or HD DVDs

anyways if you don't know there is a beta tester to see if your system has the balls for the new hardware driver that are coming out soon.

Link: http://www.cyberlink.com/english/sup.../diagnosis.jsp

there you download the tester (Advisor software) it will scan your system to see if it up to read Blu-ray or HD DVDs that are coming out soon.

read up on the details link: http://www.cyberlink.com/english/sup...d_vs_hddvd.jsp

Blu-ray Disc

Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format. The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition video (HD), as well as for storing large amounts of data. The format offers more than five times the storage capacity of traditional DVDs and can hold up to 25GB on a single-layer disc and 50GB on a dual-layer disc.
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HD DVD
HD DVD (High Density Digital Versatile Disc or High Definition Digital Video Disc) is a digital optical media format that can hold high definition video or other data. HD DVD is similar to the competing Blu-ray Disc, which also uses the same CD-size (120 mm diameter), optical data storage media and 405 nm wavelength blue laser. HD DVD is being promoted by Toshiba, NEC, Sanyo, Microsoft and Intel, among others. In terms of major studios, HD DVD is currently exclusively backed by Universal Studios and is non-exclusively backed by Paramount Pictures and Warner Bros., Studio Canal and The Weinstein Company.

HD DVD-ROM is a 12cm disc, 1.2mm thick, replicated as either single or dual layer, with a storage capacity of 15GB for a single layer and 30GB for a dual layer disc. Double-sided versions increase capacity to 30GB and 60GB respectively.
3X DVD-ROM Brings the higher data rate of HD DVD to the conventional format, enabling 135 minutes of HD content to be placed on a DVD-ROM, using AVC or VC-1 codecs.
8 cm mini HD DVD offers 4.7GB in single layer form and 9.4GB as dual layer. A double-sided disc is part of the standard.
HD DVD-R write once discs can hold 15 GB per side, 30GB total.
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will i not up there but i got two unuse bays not being use.

Brand names that are making these new DVD Drives are:

Panasonic
LF-MB121JD (Japan)

Philips
SPD7000 (second half 2006)

Pioneer
BDR-101A (USA - Q1 2006)

Sony
Blu-ray Disc PC Drive

Source: http://www.blu-raydisc.com/products/...625/Index.html
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Find this a bet funny:
Poineer some may not know it, they and Sony are one and the same people. if i remember right Poineer taken over sony back in the 70s later half before (sony) was thinking of making any Playstation 1 up.

[Scott]

I'm going for HD-DVD even though everyone I know seems to be Blu-Ray.. BR is nice, the avaliable space is amazing but it costs more then HD DVD, personally, I am sick of paying so much for everything. Acording to non-bias reviews (As I see them anyways) you cannot tell the real difference between the two in terms of quality unless they are side by side and you were looking for tiny flaws.. In that case BR usually wins, but not by enough to justify the cost.

I think HD DVD will win because the porn industry says so.

[Chrispy]

Found out about Blu-Ray ages ago...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-Ray_disc

12 cm, single sided 25 GB (23.3 GiB) 50 GB (46.6 GiB)
12 cm, double sided 50 GB (46.6 GiB) 100 GB (93.2 GiB)
8 cm, single sided 7.8 GB (7.3 GiB) 15.6 GB (14.6 GiB)
8 cm, double sided 15.6 GB (14.5 GiB) 31.2 GB (29 GiB)

About 9 hours of high-definition (HD) video can be stored on a 50 GB disc.
About 23 hours of standard-definition (SD) video can be stored on a 50 GB disc.
On average, a single-layer disc can hold a High Definition feature of 135 minutes using MPEG-2, with additional room for 2 hours of bonus material in standard definition quality. A double-layer disc will extend this number up to 3 hours in HD quality and 9 hours of SD bonus material.



Chris

[Hellfighter]

any one what the average price range is for these two type of hardware burner DVD for Blu-ray or HD.

[Chrispy]

In June 2004 Panasonic became the second manufacturer to launch a Blu-ray Disc recorder to the Japanese market. Launching in July the DMR-E700BD was one of the first few units to support writing to existing DVD formats, and to single-side dual-layer Blu-ray Discs with a maximum capacity of 50 gigabytes. The launch price of the recorder was $2780 USD, with 50 GB disc costing around $69 USD and the 25 GB disc costing around $32 USD.

Initial versions of Sony's Blu-ray Disc-authoring software only included support for MPEG-2 video, so the initial Blu-ray Discs were forced to use MPEG-2 rather than the newer codecs, VC-1 and H.264. An upgrade was subsequently released supporting the newer compression methods so the second wave of Blu-ray Disc titles were able to make use of this. The choice of codecs affects disc cost (due to related licensing/royalty payments) as well as program capacity. The two more advanced video codecs can typically achieve twice the video runtime of MPEG-2. When using MPEG-2, quality considerations would limit the publisher to around two hours of high-definition content on a single-layer (25 GB) BD-ROM.

Man, did you read the wiki Chief?

It's posted above...

Blu-ray Disc has an experimental digital rights management (DRM) feature called BD+ which allows for dynamically changing keys for the cryptographic protections involved. Should the keys currently in use be "cracked" or leaked, manufacturers can update them and build them into all subsequent discs, preventing a single key discovery from permanently breaking the entire scheme. Blu-ray Disc also mandates a Mandatory Managed Copy system, which allows users to copy content a limited number of times, but requiring registration with the content provider to acquire the keys needed; this feature was originally requested by HP.

The lack of a dynamic encryption model is what made standard DVD's Content Scramble System a disaster from the industry's perspective: once CSS was cracked, all standard DVDs from then on were open to unauthorized decryption. However this controversial technology, together with Self-Protecting Digital Content (SPDC), can allow players judged "bad" to be effectively disabled, preventing their use by their purchaser or subsequent owners. See Advanced Access Content System (AACS).

The Blu-ray Disc Association also agreed to add a form of digital watermarking technology to the discs. Under the name "ROM-Mark", this technology will be built into all ROM-producing devices, and requires a specially licensed piece of hardware to insert the ROM-mark into the media during replication. All Blu-ray Disc playback devices must check for the mark. Through licensing of the special hardware element, the BDA believes that it can eliminate the possibility of mass producing BD-ROMs without authorization.

In addition, Blu-ray Disc players must follow AACS guidelines pertaining to outputs over non-encrypted interfaces. This is set by a flag called the Image Constraint Token (ICT), which would restrict the output-resolution without HDCP to 960×540. The decision to set the flag to restrict output ("down-convert") is left up to the content provider. According to CED Magazine, Sony/MGM and Disney currently have no plans to down-convert, and Fox is opposed to it as well. Warner Pictures is a proponent of the ICT, and it is expected that Paramount will also implement it. Other studios releasing Blu-ray Disc content have not yet commented on whether or not they will use down-conversion. None of the titles released as of Dec 2006 include the use of the ICT. AACS guidelines require that any title that implements the ICT must clearly state so on the packaging.

Chris

[Hellfighter]

Q: Man, did you read the wiki Chief?
A: hate that site asker no way

price? it noted is dated two years old (2004) as will. do no good.

what would the going price of today be?
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have to ask this Chrispy (Chris)
why is it seem you trying like hell to out do other in the forum?

you trying to hard to act like the big man! be your self and have fun. don't be so pushy ok

Originally posted by Scott
I'm going for HD-DVD even though everyone I know seems to be Blu-Ray.. BR is nice, the avaliable space is amazing but it costs more then HD DVD, personally, I am sick of paying so much for everything. Acording to non-bias reviews (As I see them anyways) you cannot tell the real difference between the two in terms of quality unless they are side by side and you were looking for tiny flaws.. In that case BR usually wins, but not by enough to justify the cost.

I think HD DVD will win because the porn industry says so.

scott if they come out with a combo BR/HD-DVD rom i'll buy it but not the burner type, the old stander burner is good still and working great.

think the cost be really super high do to it be new on the market

[IcIshoot]

Cheapest Blu-Ray Burner @ newegg.com is around $549, after a $30 rebate.

I didn't see any Blu-ray dvd-roms listed, only burners.

None of the HD kind


IcI

[Chrispy]

Ya I ain't being pushy Chief!

Yeah, it is 2004 price to be honest. But thinking about it, the blu-ray discs are kinda still ''in progress'' so the prices depend and stuff.

And besides, why not Google the prices!?

I found this here:
http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

What will Blu-ray products cost?

As with any new technology the first generation of products will likely be quite expensive due to low production volumes. However, this shouldn't be a problem for long as there is a wide range of Blu-ray related products (players, recorders, drives, writers, media, etc) planned, which should help drive up production volumes and lower overall production costs. Once mass production of components for Blu-ray products begins the prices are expected to fall quickly.

According to the Blu-ray Disc Association, the overall cost of manufacturing Blu-ray Disc media will in the end be no more expensive than producing a DVD. The reduced injection molding costs (one molding machine instead of two, no birefringence problems) offset the additional cost of applying the cover layer and low cost hard-coat, while the techniques used for applying the recording layer remain the same. As production volumes increase the production costs should fall and eventually be comparable to DVDs.

Chris

[Hellfighter]

Originally posted by icishoot
Cheapest Blu-Ray Burner @ newegg.com is around $549, after a $30 rebate.

I didn't see any Blu-ray dvd-roms listed, only burners.

None of the HD kind

IcI

thanks

[Scott]

Why dont you like wikipedia chief? It's one of the best sources of information avaliable..

[Hellfighter]

seem thier information never get update as time go by is the main reason only.

most of the item i look up there (wikipedia.com) seem out dated is the only reason. i find it best to search other places to get updated information on things.

[Chrispy]

Well regardless of what you said Wikipedia pwns very badly. I get most of my info from that site and I get extremely accurate results. That's probably the only site where there's articles built for all types of audiences. I would admit I would understand very well what I read on that site. But that's just you Chief...

And to be honest, I've seen the articles being updated very much too. Very very much. That's why they probably still had the 2004 price on the Blu-Ray; price still the same? What if the ''2004 price'' they said was the actual final price?

And also, prices depend on what type of BR disc you're going to buy. Prices are different in pretty much every store as well...

http://www.supermediastore.com/blue-...-recorder.html

There's a TDK Blu-Ray 25GB disc for $19.99 as well...

There's not much info on BR disc costs but if you're that desperate to find out a price go do some Googling yourselves Imao...

And check this beetch out:

Protein-Coated Disc (PCD) is a theoretical optical disc technology currently being developed by Professor V Renugopalakrishnan of Harvard Medical School. PCD would greatly increase storage over Holographic Versatile Disc optical disc systems. It involves coating a normal DVD with a special light-sensitive protein made from a genetically altered microbe, which would in principle allow storage of up to 50 Terabytes on one disc. With NEC in Japan, Renugopalakrishnan's team has created a prototype device and estimate that a USB disk will be commercialised in 12 months and a DVD in 18 to 24 months as of July, 2006.

Chris