British Forces Held By Iran

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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...257281,00.html

British Forces Held By Iran
Updated: 12:30, Friday March 23, 2007



Fifteen British sailors and Marines are being held by Iranian forces.

They were taking part in a routine operation boarding merchant ships in Iraqi territorial waters when they were seized by Iranian naval vessels.

The sailors and Marines had completed a successful inspection of one ship when the group and their two boats were surrounded.

They were then escorted by Iranian vessels into its territorial waters.

The forces are believed to have been seized in the Shatt Al Arab waterway.

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "We are urgently pursuing this matter with the Iranian authorities at the highest level.

"And on the instructions of the Foreign Secretary, the Iranian ambassador has been summoned to the Foreign Office.

"The British Government is demanding the immediate and safe return of our people and equipment."

UK forces are allowed to board merchant ships in the area under international law and the operation is believed to have been part of a crackdown on smuggling.

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this should b interesting...

[SilentTrigger]

Send the 22nd SAS on them! Nah, hope there's an easy diplomatic fix for this as that would be the best, would have serious implication if force was used, but I support it if that's what is needed.

[Hellfighter]

hell with that they like to have war! let bomb the liven hell out of them! if they don't let them go.

to me that is a act of war.

tire of Iran bull talk and kidnapping crap! lets end it all for them, drop bombs on the their nuke plant as will all the big city, lets sent their country to the stone-ages.

[Mauser 98K]

yup, i think this is to taunt the british and every1 else that is telling iran to stop uranium enrichment, and if we lucky they wont try to set an example of the soldiers, this has happened b4 in that part of world, they kidnap some1 important or a lot of people like the iranian hostage standoff, and then they hold them as ransome or kill them to try to make an example to scare their enemies, if they hurt 1 hair on their head, i say desimate the entire country with MOABS fuelair and tactical nukes, do airbursts so there is no dust thrown up in the air and there is minimal fallout.

hell getting the pres of iran is easy, get a preditor drone with explosives on it anduse satalites to survail the area till he pops up and then task the drone to blow the structure he is in and poof, no more dickhead.

we have some of the most advanced weapons in our arsenal but they are just sitting there rusting, i say unleash the furry of the full force upon them if it come to it.

[Hellfighter]

we don't even have to send in no troopers at all into their lowlife country at all. we can do it 500miles out in sea and land send them goober candies (bomb) by air mail (rockets).

i say lay waste to them all.

i love my family tree it go way back to the U.K we are blood bothers

U.S
U.K
A.U.S

can's say for Canadian

there are many thing we two may not like with each other but we are there to help each other and by god we will fight together as a family would kill all who come to harm us in any!

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the thing is... u cant "kill" everything from the sky.. unless ofcourse u used a nuke, but then.. well, what did the iraq war start over? the threat of WMDs..

if they did cross the boundary then iran has the right to do it, but if they didnt then well, thats pretty close to an act of war..

silent, sending the SAS in would be suicide, iran would use it as an excuse to do something..

all i can say is if they kill any of the hostages they can expect to feel the force of the UK army.. i know that the people in high places over wont stand to see them kill any of them and get away with it

[SilentTrigger]

"silent, sending the SAS in would be suicide, iran would use it as an excuse to do something.. "

Yeah I know heh

As I said I want to see a diplomatic resolution even if it would be nice to send SAS (just because they are the SAS and I love them! hehe)

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I don't understand why you should punish the people of Iran when this is an act of the dictator. And a nuke is out of the question as it would effect the whole world, not just Iran. I hope this is known by those that has the ability to press that red button (or what ever colors they have)

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Originally posted by SilentTrigger*MFA*

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I don't understand why you should punish the people of Iran when this is an act of the dictator. And a nuke is out of the question as it would effect the whole world, not just Iran. I hope this is known by those that has the ability to press that red button (or what ever colors they have)

was thinking the same, but just cudnt word it properly

[Chrispy]

Originally posted by SilentTrigger*MFA*
"silent, sending the SAS in would be suicide, iran would use it as an excuse to do something.. "

Yeah I know heh

As I said I want to see a diplomatic resolution even if it would be nice to send SAS (just because they are the SAS and I love them! hehe)

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I don't understand why you should punish the people of Iran when this is an act of the dictator. And a nuke is out of the question as it would effect the whole world, not just Iran. I hope this is known by those that has the ability to press that red button (or what ever colors they have)

Amen to that!

Remember when George Bush was going to take action when Iran was doing all that uranium business? It was a good thing he did that, as he was probably worried about the safety of his country (Iran can always drop a nuke somewhere right?).

Meh, what the heck am I talking about?

Chris

[Sen]

...this whole world is going crazy.

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iran doesnt have any nukes... offically that is.. but they r in the development stages, as far as i know they do hav the missile technology to launch medium range, but nowhere as close to the range that russia, us,uk etc can do

[Hellfighter]

look it ether the people of the higher ups in Iran ether way they taken these people in and in the pass history they always kill their people they taken in.

99% they will be dead and the ships will become part of Iran Navy ships. not only that they will take all the hi-tech off the ship and look them over to use for them selves

[SilentTrigger]

Interesting thing is that small Sweden ware in the process of developing nukes/wmd's during the cold war, but was stoped before it came aslong as the actual weapon. The soviet was a real pain in the ass and if the situation would have continued as it was in the 50ies and 60ies Sweden would of been a Nuclear power at present day.

"During the 50s and 60s Sweden developed considerable nuclear expertise - developing reactor technology and building nuclear power plants. Sweden seriously investigated nuclear weapons from the mid 1950s into the 1960s. A very substantial research effort into the fundamental technical issues of weapon design and manufacture was conducted. By the mid-1960s this effort had supplied sufficient knowledge to allow Sweden to begin immediate manufacture of fairly sophisticated fission weapons. Faced with this decision, Sweden decided not to pursue a weapon production program.

In 1989 Sweden operated 12 power reactors producing 10130 MW electrical (45% of its total electricity), by 1994 this had risen to 51%. A previous referendum that voted to eliminate nuclear power by 2010 seems to have become moot in the face of economic reality. "

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Nwfaq/Nfaq7-4.html

Sweden also stand for about 15 - 20 % of the worlds uranium resource.

I'm glad it never went futher then it did. Or there would of been a more serious situation between Sweden and Soviet then it already was at the time.

Now we're aparently pissed off on Cuba, forgot what the reason was but our foreign minister had aparently said some not so friendly words to Cuba heh

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Oh here's something about the cuba issue:

"Sveriges utrikesminister Carl Bildt höll ett anförande i FN och kritiserade Kuba för brott mot de mänskliga rättigheterna.
Då gick Kubas ambassadör till vilt angrepp och anklagade Sverige för att vara en blodig imperialistmakt som genomför etnisk resning av dem som inte har vikingablod."

Swedens foreign minister held a speach at FN headquarters and criticised Cuba for crimes against the human rights. The Cuban amassader then went to attack by saying that Sweden is a coldblooded imperialistic power that is persuing ethnic clensing on those that do not have viking blood.

Hehe

[Troy]

Rumor has it, they've now confessed they were in Iranian waters.

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Originally posted by Troy
Rumor has it, they've now confessed they were in Iranian waters.

i heard that aswell.. but is it creditable? or was it a forced confession?

altho brit forces hav bn known to take chances a lot.. but im sure if they did cross the line, it has to be an accident... any radar/gps tracking systems on the boat and the HMS ship will b able to confirm the claim.. wondering y nothing has been said yet

[Mauser 98K]

DEBKAfile reports: High alert at US and UK bases, Middle East armies on the ready lest Iran’s seizure of 15 British seamen Friday is only first Iranian reprisal action

March 24, 2007, 11:06 PM (GMT+02:00)





Our military sources report that Middle East and Persian Gulf nations as well as the US and UK are bracing for further Iranian marine, air or terrorist operations in Iraq and other places in reprisal for the sanctions measure before the UN Security Council in New York. On the ready too are the Saudi armed forces and some Israeli air and naval units.

According to Iranian sources the 15 British Royal navy seamen and marines which an Iranian warship seized with their commando craft Friday, March 23, will be put on trial.

London insists the UK marines routinely inspecting merchant vessels for smuggled goods were on the Iraqi side of the divided Shat al Arb waterway which flows into the Persian Gulf. Tehran accuses them of entering Iranian waters.

DEBKAfile’s military sources say the incident was but a pretext. According to incoming intelligence, Tehran plans to release a series of reprisals after sanctions are approved in New York Saturday evening, March 24.

The Islamic Republic is also cautioning its Gulf neighbors Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, whose foreign ministers meet visiting US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice in Assuan Saturday morning, not to cooperate with Washington’s regional policies and to stay neutral in the US-Iran dispute.

President Mahmoud Admadinejad’s last-minute cancellation of his appearance before the Security Council is further indication that Tehran gave up on diplomatic maneuvers for pre-empting the sanctions resolution and, assuming their approval was not preventable, turned instead to ramping up military tensions.

Thursday, DEBKAfile reported exclusively a rendezvous Wednesday between the French nuclear carrier Charles de Gaulle and its task force with the USS John C. Stennis in the Arabian Sea Wednesday for joint missions in the global war on terror.

The next day, Iran launched a new naval war game in the Persian Gulf. Just before the British sailors were seized, UK commanders in Basra accused Iran of being behind 90% of the violence in S. Iraq and paying out $250 to anyone willing to attack British troops.

Amid rising tensions in the strategic Gulf waters, DEBKAfile’s military sources disclose the American-French rendezvous was timed to coincide with the UN Security Council session Wednesday to debate expanded sanctions against Iran for continuing its banned uranium enrichment program.

The Iranians were bowled over by the appearance of the Charles de Gaulle opposite their southern coast, having assumed that Paris took issue with Washington’s tough stand on their nuclear activities and was seeking improved relations with Tehran.

However, Western military circles explain that the French president Jacques Chirac decided before he leaves office in May to repair the bad impression he left in early February when he urged the world - and Israel in particular - to learn to live with “an Iranian nuclear bomb or two.”

Rafale fighter-bombers on the French carrier’s decks will fly missions over Afghanistan alongside US warplanes.

Its arrival raises to four the number of Western aircraft carriers cruising within striking distance of Iran, including the USS Eisenhower and USS Boxer.

The Charles de Gaulle is accompanied by French Task Force 473, which consists of five warships: the FNS Cassard guided missile destroyer, the FNS Tourville anti-submarine frigate, the FNS Dupleix destroyer adapted for escorting oil tankers and the FNS Marne, a command and supply vessel. Captain of the French task force is Rear Adm. Xavier Magne. Commander of the American flotilla is Rear Adm. Kevin Quinn.


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[Hellfighter]

Iran will lie and fix that these U.K Navy men be hang right off the back. every time they send people to their court system they kill them off.

i say tell them to release them i get blown away. this is a act of war they came into Iraq water way and kidnap these Navy men and taken their ship as will.

all ships are track by GPS and Iran is clueless of this.

person i don't think Iran give a 2c what the world think they do as they please........sad thing is they will kill these Navy mens off without a care.

[Mauser 98K]

IRAN MAY BE CHANGING ITS MIND

Iran is changing its tune on the 15 kidnapped British soldiers, saying it is questioning them to see if they're innocent. It seems the Iranians think now maybe their supposed trespassing in Iranian waters was an accident. More accurately .... perhaps the Iranians have some hint that their little kidnapping ploy isn't working out all that well for them and they had better find a way out of this mess. By the way...one of the 15 is a woman. Just how much of this is the world going to put up with?

By the way, the Blob (that's Rosie O'Donnell for those of you who are new to the show) thinks we made the whole thing up. That's right, theBlob implied on 'The View' that the United States somehow set up this whole thing so as to provoke the Iranians into giving us an excuse to start a war with them. Yeah, that's what happened. George W. Bush probably did all this in his spare time while he was planning more plane hijackings so he could continue the War On Terror. I'm starting to think that this hideous woman really is as stupid as she sounds. Stupid --- not ignorant. You can fix ignorant.

Anyway, it could be that mounting international pressure is changing the Iranians minds...but it's still astonishing that nobody is doing anything about it. Snatching those 15 soldiers was an act of war....except Britain hasn't reacted. Why? Evidently because they're continuing their policy of Islamic appeasement...and letting the Iranians slide. The strongest words Tony Blair could come up with was that they were taking the matter very seriously. That's it. Which is too bad...because this would be a great opportunity to put the Mullahs in Tehran in their place.

But instead, the UK is holding Iran's hand...softly telling them to please return the soldiers. I wonder if they're going to pay money for their release? Perhaps a prisoner swap? It's really that absurd.
Where are the Islamic fascists going to push next?

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

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UK has a strict policy, just like many other countries.. about kidnapping by other countries, they will talk, but they wont negotiate

iran has probably questionned the forces who made the arrest and they prob. crossed in2 iraqi waters, so they will b covering their ass now

[Hellfighter]

will the blobey (ROA) women, lost it long ago and she is about trailer park trash talk to get weak minded fools to watch their Tv-show now days their rating is way low and no one care what the girls think.

i find it funny she look like 300bls on the Tv set screen and she can talk trash all day and dream about new way to come up with new trash talk.

if Kerry was in white house she would trash him in a heart beat as will. it about getting people to watch her shows. bottom line people like her don't care what the truth is! they would lie to get people to watch their socall Tv-Show. anyways ROA is not the top of the food train she is the food train.

let stay with the truth and leave the old women lay in RIP in her fat dreams.

will i can only hope and pray to high of high that Iran release these good U.K Navy people and their ship they was on.