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Old 06-25-2005, 05:14 PM
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[adult] thinking of having my back spine fuse together

thinking of having my lower back spine fuse two bones together. i have a back trouble slip disk trouble two bone like to slip back and forth, thinking asking the doctor to fuse two bones together. at a VA hospital

have any one have this done to them and have it done any good?

i am a bit scare to have this done to me, but the trouble i am having is really hurts a lot pain level can get really super bad were i in bed for 3 days till they slip back in place, when they go out can't walk, lucky if i can run way it is now. i am limit to what i can do. hell they gone out of place even pick up 10-20bls some times

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like to hear other who had this done to them.
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Old 06-25-2005, 05:25 PM
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i can't image how this is done. what is the procedure?

i take it you would lose some flexability?
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Old 06-25-2005, 06:58 PM
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erm ... are you sure this is actully a medicle precedure or somrthing you made up ...

they only fuse bones between joints, for correcting things like hammer toe and stuff...
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Old 06-25-2005, 07:24 PM
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they do the spine too.

my doctor told me of it two years all go about it, i put it off don't like to the ID some one cutting open my back to fuse two bones together as one were i having this trouble with.

yes it is real as you can get VooDoo-
mostly people have spine trouble have it done, and almost a every day type of surgery. it not limit to feet,legs it can be done to bones in the body it were two bones meet up they can fuse them together to fix a trouble area.

you think the spine has no joint come on think! guy it loaded with joints up and down the spine, if we had no joints you could not bend over to see your feet or turn side to side.


only my case i have two bones ( one joint area) like to slip in and out in one spot were this joint is no longer stay put in place it like to slip.

take both hands make a fist and put them together one on top of the other, now were they are together the joint is between the two hands in the center is the disk, only in my case the two hands will slip out of place and not stay put and the disk get pitch end between the two bones, now if they are fuse together the disk is safe from getting pitch and lays there as happy as can be. no more pain.

will thats what i understand from it, not 100% in the end if it works out 100%

thats why i said i like to hear other who had it done to their back.
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Old 06-26-2005, 12:15 AM
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That would suck Chief and yes there is a way to fuse I hear of it all the time although it would suck.
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Old 06-26-2005, 01:25 AM
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yea i not to crazy about it ether
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Old 06-26-2005, 04:20 AM
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Cool

It sounds like there might be some risk in this Chief but if you have to get it done for pain relief it might be the only option.

I'm sorry I can't offer anymore advice bro but I hope you get it sorted out as soon as possible.

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Old 06-26-2005, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
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they only fuse bones between joints, for correcting things like hammer toe and stuff...
I wasn't aware you were an orthopaedic surgeon.

They don't go into the centre of the spine to fuse so the risk of paralysis is lower than you think.
The risk exists though.

I know of people that have had it done and swear by it.
The reduction of flexibility is nothing compared to the absence of pain.
You won't even notice the lack of flexibility at that point for this very reason.
Me I would be more scared of the anaesthesia than the actual op'
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Old 06-26-2005, 09:53 PM
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I wasn't aware you were an orthopaedic surgeon.

They don't go into the centre of the spine to fuse so the risk of paralysis is lower than you think.
The risk exists though.

I know of people that have had it done and swear by it.
The reduction of flexibility is nothing compared to the absence of pain.
You won't even notice the lack of flexibility at that point for this very reason.
Me I would be more scared of the anaesthesia than the actual op'
thanks sounds a lot better.

they fuse the bone on the out side area leaving the center area along. sounds right.

going to talk to my doctor this week about it more.
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It sounds like there might be some risk in this Chief but if you have to get it done for pain relief it might be the only option.

I'm sorry I can't offer anymore advice bro but I hope you get it sorted out as soon as possible.

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Old 06-26-2005, 10:20 PM
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i would actully know that because i had the surgery on my toe ...

when they fuse bones they take out all of the cartilage and stuff and pin the two bones together...

i'd be more worried about the doctor hitting my spinal cord than the anaesthesia..
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Old 06-26-2005, 11:25 PM
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anesthesia i don't care if the good doc hit me with a baseball bat i still like the ID getting it work on, as for the spinal core will i can live with it, they can pin them together as they like it would stop them two bones from slipping in and out were they pitch the spinal cord, by fusing them together i hope it will stop me from hitting the ground face first. when it go out it feel like a rubber band relaxing at first, only then i know its a warning sign to get to a chair or bed in 5min or i drop. as i am in this stage of pain i can't stand up right at all walking face to the ground like a upside down ¬

it can go out when i am: working, lifting things, sleeping & turning, walking as i turn to look at something. it really sucks big time. some times i wish i had a gun to kill my self feels that bad with the pain and limit what i can do in life.

PS; not going to kill my self any time soon, i hate it a lot when it happens. not in my power to contour it when it happens.

gee even gone to bed it happens i wake up and stuck there can't move if i do the pain will rocket way up.
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Old 06-26-2005, 11:41 PM
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I love anesthesia.

I only had the mild stuff for my wisdom teeth though. I barfed afterwards.

Someone I know has had that done recently, I don't remember who though.

I'll keep you posted if I remember.
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Old 06-26-2005, 11:45 PM
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I love anesthesia.

I only had the mild stuff for my wisdom teeth though. I barfed afterwards.

Someone I know has had that done recently, I don't remember who though.

I'll keep you posted if I remember.
never had it, do it taste like chicken? j/k
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last year my back slip out 8x pain killers don't do much for it at all or the pills to musle spasm i have

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For: Painkiller

IBUPROFEN 800mg
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Old 06-26-2005, 11:56 PM
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It just feels like you are going to sleep.

Thankfully they did it through the IV not through a mask.

They gave my Hydrocadon which did nothing. I took a ton of those IBProfens though, they help a lot with swelling and pain.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:16 AM
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anesthesia is only something to really worry about when your old (old old, not cheif old ) because theres the chance you wont wake up ... but theres always a very small chance that it will happen to anyone...

i've been under anesthesia twice... and i just feel dizzy for a sec .. then i wake up ...

then i'm going under anesthesia again in 2 weeks for my wisdom teeth..oh joy...

i never take the pain killers they perscribe...C2 narcotics... uh uh ...
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:24 AM
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Actually yes, you should and need to get it done. Without fusing the two bones together can lead to more and painful back problems. If I remember correctly, the reason they are slipping is because the fluid in the little sacs between your back bones has leaked out, causing deflation which intern allows the bones to move....or something like that. I know a disk is located in there somewhere lol.

It's been a few weeks since med class was out. :s
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Old 06-27-2005, 07:17 AM
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Did you have to watch a video about that when you went in for a checkup with the surgeon?

I had em out and my mouth was sore for a bit but that's all. It wasn't any intense pain, when I got sick of the ache then I took the pills.

I couldn't take the hydrocodon because I had to drive my friends around the day after I had my wisdom teeth out.

I remember watching a movie before they took my teeth out and it was going over all the dangers of anesthesia. If I wanted to die, that is the way to do it .
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:04 PM
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I am glad that having anaesthesia and a toe op', gives you confidence to reassure people within this forum Voodoo.
Often it is the story of a real person that means more than someone reeling off statistics.
I don't think your experience qualifies you to be quite so sure of yourself though.
I have worked in hospitals as a Staff Nurse for six years.
Believe me, the most likley person to die under anaesthesia is the person who ignored their surgeons advice not to eat for the eight hours before hand.
Anaesthesia is the single biggest risk to life in any surgery. It doesn't just affect old people either.

That said, the people who really matter in any major operation, the aneasthetists, are the ones that are in control. NOT as is assumed the surgeons.
Surgeons pretty much take on the role of mechanic and do as they are told by the aneasthetist. That means that if something goes wrong with your bodies ability to maintain itself, the anaesthetist can call a halt to procedure in order to stabilise you.
The really good news is that for the most part, Anaesthetists are the single greatest doctors in any given hospital. When it comes to life saving there is no better practitioner. And in an operation such as chiefs spine op' you would get your very own hardcore Anaesthetist sat by you for the entire time you spend under the influence.
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