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Old 07-14-2005, 06:29 AM
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there is one form of socialism and it's the government telling the people how and when. when your government fools a few more like they have fooled you then they will tell you where and presto changeo your a communist and the government will take care of all your needs and none of your wants until your economy collapses. at that point you'll have to do for yourself and wont knew how.the US has bailed out the USSR five times because communism dont work. no insentive, no production, no economy. you can talk till your blue in the face but without any facts of a country becoming rich turning to a socialist government it's just talk.
You live in a dream, in a dark room with no connection to the real world

The fact that the socalist party (yes Sweden is a democracy if you didnt know that) has been elected over and over again, it cant be that bad considering that

Sweden was ranked the second best country after Norway to live in, this was 2002.

Sweden has one of the higest life expectencey of both sexes.

Sweden was one of the riches and most industrilised countries in the world in the 60ies and on to around the 1990ies

Sweden is one of the leading IT nations in the world.


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Old 07-14-2005, 07:03 AM
Lakie is offline Lakie

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Quote United States Declaration of independance:
"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal"

Quote Baddogs Post
"Socialism is the political belief ... that everyone should be equal"

Hmmmm.....


Its possible to have democoratic socialism, just like its possible to have democratic communism, socialism isnt a system of government as such in that respect. Youll find socialism in almost every country if you look hard enough. Socialism dosent call for total government control over everything either, its a line of thinking that the government should be able to provide some things, it dosent mean that private enterprises cant try to create competition...

Anyway, im not saying socialism is a good or bad thing, im sure somewhere between capitalism and socialism there is a good balance...

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Old 07-14-2005, 08:04 AM
BADDOG is offline BADDOG
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Originally posted by BB/Mike*MFA*
Quote United States Declaration of independance:
"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal"

Quote Baddogs Post
"Socialism is the political belief ... that everyone should be equal"

Hmmmm.....


Its possible to have democoratic socialism, just like its possible to have democratic communism, socialism isnt a system of government as such in that respect. Youll find socialism in almost every country if you look hard enough. Socialism dosent call for total government control over everything either, its a line of thinking that the government should be able to provide some things, it dosent mean that private enterprises cant try to create competition...

Anyway, im not saying socialism is a good or bad thing, im sure somewhere between capitalism and socialism there is a good balance...
Acutally mike that definition of Socialism is a verbatim copy from a dictionary, it is I admit rather simplistic but that is a basic aim of the Fabian society here in Brtain.

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