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Old 11-17-2005, 03:37 AM
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eek Cigarettes £6.00 per pack!!!!

I know most of you are sensible enough not to smoke and it's just as well as one of our local stores is now selling 20 Park Drive, ( a well known British brand of ciggys), for the outrageous price of £6.00 per pack, ($10.31!)!!!!

It's no wonder everyone and his brother is packing the bloody things up!!!!

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Old 11-17-2005, 04:48 AM
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Man Im glad I gave up, I still havent lit one up.

And at them prices I dont think I will....
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Old 11-17-2005, 05:42 AM
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Man Im glad I gave up, I still havent lit one up.

And at them prices I dont think I will....
I don't blame you mate and at that rate there won't be anyone smoking so I wonder where the government will raise the revenue from:?

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Old 11-17-2005, 09:06 AM
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:41 AM
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Ultimately to achieve 1 of 2 possible outcomes IMO:

A) Increase in tax revenue.
B) Deter people from smoking.

Though it's more effective at causing A than it is B as cigarettes are relatively price inelastic due to the addictive nature. However, hopefully all the proposed legislation and anti-smoking campaigns etc etc will lead to greater price elasticity and more smokers will let the cost factor become an issue and will stop smoking - then of course the government have to get their tax revenue elsewhere :-).
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:10 AM
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whoa man, u get it cheap!

i have to pay nearly 750 to buy a 20pack of L&B from our garage then i sell them on for £1 each

nice little profit
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:35 AM
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i hope they increase it even more, i dont see why i (a non smoker) should have to pay for a smokers medical treatment for illness and medical conditions caused by smoking
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:34 PM
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i hope they increase it even more, i dont see why i (a non smoker) should have to pay for a smokers medical treatment for illness and medical conditions caused by smoking
Do You Drive?
If so why should people have to get ill off your Car fumes?

After all you would die a lot faster from a tube from the exhaust into the car than you would having a car full of smokers, So now which is more dangerous?

I always think of things like this I am not a smoker any longer but the goverment should think its not just smoking its all the crap you breath in just breathing too.
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:51 PM
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Tobacoo companys don't pay tax's they pass it onto the buyer, in the end you the public will get tax's to death. bottom line they never get tax's we the buyers get it in the end. so the price get jack up on us all.

in other word they need more money, so they come up with new ways to tax people to get the money. they don't know how to handle money spend and spend it like running water.

never ask them how much money they have in their bank account they will not asker you its empty and need more money in it.
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Old 11-17-2005, 02:06 PM
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Honestly though, put it to like 20 a pack. and put pure nicotine in it. that way they will get their monies worth and die after smoking a solid pack...its such a horid habbit to get into and a waste of money.
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Old 11-17-2005, 02:33 PM
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Do You Drive?
If so why should people have to get ill off your Car fumes?

After all you would die a lot faster from a tube from the exhaust into the car than you would having a car full of smokers, So now which is more dangerous?

I always think of things like this I am not a smoker any longer but the goverment should think its not just smoking its all the crap you breath in just breathing too.
how many people die each each year from car fumes? 33,000
how many people die each each year from smoking? 110,000 (no including people forced to breath in smokers smoke)
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:24 PM
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Tobacoo companys don't pay tax's they pass it onto the buyer, in the end you the public will get tax's to death. bottom line they never get tax's we the buyers get it in the end. so the price get jack up on us all.
All business costs get passed on to the consumer....
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:26 PM
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:00 AM
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how many people die each each year from car fumes? 33,000
how many people die each each year from smoking? 110,000 (no including people forced to breath in smokers smoke)
I have to question the validity of a death rate of 33,000 from cars some surveys say it's much higher and will continue to rise rapidly so perhaps we should increase taxation on all private vehicles to stop deaths from that reason?

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Old 11-18-2005, 10:44 AM
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if you looked into it you'll find that people who have cars that produce higher emissions do indeed pay more tax

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/taxation.htm

12,000 deaths caused each year by passive smoking

car fumes:

* Carbon monoxide
* Nitrogen dioxide
* Sulphur dioxide
* Benzene
* Formaldehyde
* Polycyclic hydrocarbons
* Lead
* Tiny suspended particles

second hand smoke from a smoker: (from NHS report)

Acetone: found in Nail polish remover
Acetic Acid: found inVinegar
Aluminum: found in Metal
Ammonia: found in Floor and toilet cleaner
Arsenic: found in Rat poison
Benzene: found in Industrial solvent
Benzo(a)pyrene: found in Diesel exhaust fume
Butane: found in Cigarette lighter fluid
Cadmium: found in Rechargeable batteries
Copper: found in Electric wiring
Carbon Monoxide: found in Car exhaust fume
DDT: found in Insecticide
Dieldrin: found in Insecticide
Formaldehyde: found in Preservative for dead bodies, wood, and fabrics
Hexamine: found in Barbecue lighter
Hydrogen Cyanide found in Gas chamber poison
Lead found in Fishing sinkers
Magnesium found in Flares
Methane found in Swamp gas
Methanol found in Rocket and car fuel
Naphthalene found in Moth balls
Nicotine found in Insecticide and addictive drug in tobacco
Nitrobenzene found in Petrol additive
Nitrous Oxide Phenols found in Disinfectant
Polonium 210 found in Radioactive compound
Silicon found in Computer chips
Silver found in Jewellery
Stearic Acid found in Candle wax
Titanium found in Aeroplanes and missiles
Toluene found in Industrial solvent
Vinyl Chloride found in Raw material to make plastic
Zinc found in Metal, in coins
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Old 11-18-2005, 11:19 AM
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Plain

The enitre planet is being warmed by car emissions and other sources so higher taxes will not prevent deaths on a collosal scale and if we are to prevent everyone from smoking why not ban fast food as it's causes heart attacks and obeseity, alcohol which accounts for 250,000 deaths per year, any sport that leads to injury of any kind as by not doing it it's preventable.

The list is almost endless and if more people live longer how are we too feed, house and clothe them all?

The fact is we all die and we all need to so that others can have a chance of a new life, if we do nothing even slightly dangerous in life then what point is there to it?

I for one refuse will refuse to pay any tax for any sport related injury as I do not participate in sports, if I stop driving why should I pay for injurys caused by lunatics driving cars to fast? It's just plain silly so do what you want to do and enjoy life smoking or other wise.

Sanctimonious statements about the evils of smoking are and inidication of a bankrupt soicety that has serious problems with real drug addiction such as heroine etc.

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Old 11-18-2005, 11:27 AM
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hehehe you'll also find that they are trying to taxing fatty foods and reduce the cost of fruit and veg, some usa states are trying to also

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4530011.stm
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Old 11-18-2005, 02:03 PM
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12,000 deaths caused each year by passive smoking
Well What I say to that is stop smokin other peoples and buy your own...
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:56 PM
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im not usually in favour of making laws specifically targeted, but id make it a crimimal offence to smoke if you arent of the legal age to smoke as of the date the law is passed. That way we just wait for the current generation of smokers to kill themself off and weve got a smoke free world.

Id also restrict the sales of smokes to liquor stores and places that are that tightly controlled anyway...
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:05 PM
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