look out Europe, this 1 will make ya mad.

[Mauser 98K]

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July 10 (Bloomberg) -- If one of the more extreme responses to global warming comes true, driving a sports car anywhere but on a racetrack might be relegated to history's dustbin.

Fast, powerful cars within a few years may be outlawed in Europe, an idea that has been raised ostensibly because Ferraris and Porsches produce too much carbon dioxide. For those who abhor sports cars as vulgar symbols of affluence (along with vacation homes, furs and fancy jewelry), such a ban could be a two-fer: Saving the planet while cutting economic inequality.

Who are these people anyway who decide on behalf of everyone what car is proper to drive? In the U.S. they're members of Congress, which is considering fuel-efficiency standards that will affect vehicle size. In Europe, it's the ministers and parliamentarians of the European Union, which wants to limit how much CO2 cars can emit as a proxy for a fuel- consumption standard.

Chris Davies, a British member of the European Parliament, is proposing one of the most-extreme measures -- a prohibition on any car that goes faster than 162 kilometers (101 miles) an hour, a speed that everything from the humble Honda Civic on up can exceed. He ridiculed fast cars as ``boys' toys.''

The proposed ban would take effect in 2013. Davies told the Guardian newspaper that ``cars designed to go at stupid speeds have to be built to withstand the effects of a crash at those speeds. They are heavier than necessary, less fuel-efficient and produce too many emissions.''


aint that some ****? a dam coal truck will go 100mph up to 110 if i remember rite, a SUV will go 101 a limo that these idiots ride around in will also do 101. hell my suzuki samurai will do 101 if properly adjusted so will a yugo.

it really aint about getting rid of emmission creating cars but for more controll, slowing them down enough so that you cant outrun the urban assault vehicles they have, and the extream mesure after this probably outlaw cars and ya are stuck to a paticular place and cant leave if ya dont like it.

but im just nuts, i dont know what is going on maby their intent is to save the world.

what pisses me off to no end is the EU and the government here are more worried about its own citizens having what they want than they are about policeing the borders and taking care of the [not needed] terrorist problem.

[Hellfighter]

Mauser 98K
please don't name religion groups here ok.

i can see your point of view as will.

but its the big car MFG who pay Tax's and support the country. no more cars no more big money

besides i think Porsches has a total clean burning none CO2 car out already, price tag i think is still high up there for it as will

[Mauser 98K]

well funny part, they say that the direct port injection is better because it increases power and loses less fuel because it is closer to the port.

well it may look good on CAD but in real it sucks, let me explain.

in order for a engine to combust properly the fuel and air have to be mixed properly, the job of the carbureator was atomize the fuel and to mix incomeing air with the fuel and it worked, a properly tuned carbureator will get quiet cold and will condense the fuel on the inside of the intake and that condensed gas will not combust properly, see where im getting? well to take care of that problem they heated the intake by exaust or by water thus decreasing the ammount of condensed fuel in the intake.

and the direct port injection, well like i said the job of the carbureator was to atomize and mix the fuel with the air, well the injection in the port on top of the valve is just spraying raw fuel into the cylnder and it isnt being mixed properly with the incomeing air, if they wanted to improve this design of engine they would allow the fuel to atomize properly and mix with the incomeing air by puting the injectors atleast 6 or 7 inches from the port by threading them into a tunnel intake system.

longated tubes with the injectors in the end of them alowing them to atomize the fuel and giving it enough time to mix properly with the incomeing air thus increasing horse power and using less fuel.

what do ya think the job of the catostrophic converter is (the big muffler looking thing on ya exaust system) it is to burn the unused gas that isnt burned properly because it wasnt mixed properly.

i can right now tune up a 241ci hemi motor and get better milage than most of the socalled fuel effecient motors, i can get in a 4000lb truck get 26 and above mpg and still get over 130mph with the so called uneffecient carbureator.

1 way to do this is to put a open 1 inch thick spacer under the carbureator, by doing this i have done 2 things, i have moved the carbureator up some makingthe passage a little longer giving it time to mix the fuel and air better, and also by the spacer being open it will trick the engine into thinking it has a bigger carbureator than it does because both side of the engine will see both barrels of the 2 barrel carbureator, ya would be supprised how much power ya gain by doing this and not effecting the ammount of fuel ya use.

tuning the exaust pipe length, ya hear these trucks with 2 mile long pipes that go blaaaattttt blaaaaaattttt , well that is verry bad, the blaaaatttt sound ya hear is the reverberation pulse that is set up in the loger than life pipes and it drives the exaust right back into the cylnder cutting power.

can ya tell me the reason for slash cutting the end if ya pipe?. . . . . it is to reduce the back pulse of the exaust.

the best length i have tried was to end the pipes in front of the back axle, and keepem equil lengths or 1 side will have more backpressure than the other and make tuning difficult, another thing ya can add is an H pipe, it connects the duel pipes somewhere in the center and helps to balance the system.

and keepem as streight as p[ossable for every turn or dogleg ya have in ya pipes will increase the backpressure.

when tuning an engine with a distributor ya can cheat and use 8:1 pistons so ya can run it on pump gas and vary the cyl pressure with advancing the timing making it fire earlier in the power stroke witch acts like using higher compressin pistons, and useing colder plugs ya can advance the timing even further , i have N9YC in my car at the moment so i can turn up the timing for more power.

just dont advance it to far or itll detonate and bust pistons bend rods and do all kindof nasty things.

the sound you are looking for is tune to resonance, listen to the engine, and when ya get to the sound thsat it sounds like woom woom woom but really fast ya are close to the sweet spot.

and dont go and grab the biggest dam carbureator you find, for a normal motor of 318ci 500cfm is good if ya go to far ya will try to force feed it fuel and ya performance will suffer, and dont get the biggest dam intake you can find, for unlessyou are drag racing and never letting out of the trottel it is pointless.

a smaller pleminum makes for better response, that is why most will if they ever let up and hit the gas again it bogs for it will take a munit for the velocity of the incomeing air to get up enough to get any response.

the smaller plenium will make for better response by allowing for less time for the velocity of the incomeing air to get fast enough for power.

1 cool thing ya can do is put on a velocity stack, it looks like a funnel and ya put it on the carbureator, it wirks by taking out the turbulence of the air comeing in.

and put it on a long tube and put it behind ya grill and it will work like a ram air system and will pick up the power too.

there are all kinds of thing ya can do to get better power without changing the engine type.

and read the spark plugs, this seams like something forgot, if they are black and furry, ya are running rich, if they are totaly wite without color ya are to lean and will make enging run hotter and make it detonate and melt the pistons .

as sea lever get higher ya can lean up the engin just a little for there is less oxygen for the engin to burn so it will richen up a little.

can any 1 tell me what a knock sensor is for? . . . . . . . . it is to retard the timing of an engine to prevent detonation due to a crappy fuel, like regular, and some will tell ya , regular is just as good as premium and my car will run just fine on it.

well the reason that your car runs ok on it is becaue of this sensor retarding the timing and preventing it from rattling, ya can do the same by backing the timing down manualy with a distributor car, cant really tell ya what detonation sounds like , hard to explain, ya would have to hear it for yaself to know what ya are hearing.

but better gas will increae milage, it does so by allowing for less fule for the power output so ya get a good power with less fuel so ya gett better milage.


and a screwy note, ya remember the old 70s cars that were electronic ignition? well that box was the size of a cigeratt pack, and computer have decrease in size since, eell now the computer in cars is preatty much the entire interiror, what is in that computer? and i have personaly took a box out of a car that had no wiring diagram in the book or the scematic and it had a antenna in it, book didnt say what it was but only thst it was required, well ive been running without it for 5 years.

and ya wana hear something funny? ya know all these people with NOS on their cars, well NOS or nitrious oxide is an oxidizer and it works on unefficient engines, i have rode in cars that my uncle has built that had no nitrious just naturaly asperated that would go from 0 to 140mph+ in under a 1\4 mile we had a buick riv with a 455 wildcat engine in it that would bury the 120+ speedometer in 1\8 mile and smokem almost 250yards.

but 1 thing you can use instead of NOS, is O2 thats rite oxygen, biught at any welding house and less than half price of NO2, it is also an oxidizer.

my uncle is an ex street racer and he raced in the 60S and 70S during the horse power wars, that is who i learned from and he had a 68 dodge pickup truck with a 241 hemi with a 4 barrel carb that would go from 3rd to 4th at 120 and burn the tires, top speed of 168 mph, i have rode in this truck i can tell you that it will do this.

[Matt]

i just looked at the length of that post and decided im not gona read it lol

[Mauser 98K]

lol, read it it has some good info on engines.

[Hellfighter]

i not planning on work on a car any time soon, seem you could have made a whole new thread about tunning up a car engine or build one better then buying a new car.

i am sorry i did read the whole thing! found no then useful i would use any time soon

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Tril0gy

sorry i read it before your post, i should have done the same thing, pass it totally do to the it was super long as will

[katana*GFR*]

Mauser, that's just some rubbish idea planted by only 1 ! person.. Ig you wanna talk Euro Politics dig deeper.. And that isnt going to happen, since germany italy and some other countrys with super cars MFG will not let that happen.

what pisses me off to no end is the EU and the government here are more worried about its own citizens having what they want than they are about policeing the borders and taking care of the [not needed] terrorist problem.

That just shows the typical US reaction to Europe, there is more then what you know overthere.. Go read up, its a big business..

[SilentTrigger]

I agree with Katana. Even if it would happen those companies that make super cars will be out with a new enviromental car in a kick. Koenigsegg are easy to transform to running on Enviromentaly better fuel and they actually have better performance.

[Mauser 98K]

ya know what i think is funny, when some1 says that a country is doing something but they arnt a part of it they always get the same reaction, that is rubbish, it wont happen ,it cant happen,no1 will stand for it, the US did the same thing when a german guy over here said that the US was turning into a police state, every1 said BS rubbish or hes full of it but it is well on its way.

every1 said that NAFTA would never pass the people would never stand for it, but look at that and now we are losing jobs to other countries.

every1 said that when prohibition was passed that the beer companies would never stand for it and others wpuldnt let it happen, it happened.

a lot of people said that the EPA would never ammount to a hill of beans and now they copntroll just about everything.

every1 said that the EPA couldnt controll what they were doing but they enacted a lot of regulations that if broken will get ya jailed.


every1 said that gas would never reach 3.00 a gallon, every1 would stop buying gas and would not stand for it, look what happened there.

so what about this makes you think that it could never happen?

many of buisness have gone under over here, BIG buisness that have been around for 100 years, because of what has been passed or enacted.

all they gota do is enactem whilest every1 is distracted, and doem little by little and by the time any1 catches on it is too late.

it always seams to be the people in that peticular country that is ignorant to what is happening around them, so they wont accept it, or beleve it.


what is happening is the EU and the US government have found a way to make big buisness do what they want, it is called more regulations, more rules, or over here amending or passing a bill into law, it happens all the time even when every1 says it wont happen it does happen.



they always pass this stuff undere the cover of TV shows and other forms of distraction so no1 knows that it is passing untill it is to late.


all the EU would have to do is enact a series of laws or regulations and just like the EPA standards they would have to follow them or go out of buisness, that is how the EU and governments controll their citizens, by enacting a law or regulation the people have to follow it of they will become criminals and be arested or fined or both.

havnt any 1 been paying attention to what has been going on?

[tail_gunner]

only thing i can input on this is your points about gas ect, not getting into the rest of it lol

[katana*GFR*]

ya know what i think is funny, when some1 says that a country is doing something but they arnt a part of it they always get the same reaction, that is rubbish, it wont happen ,it cant happen,no1 will stand for it, the US did the same thing when a german guy over here said that the US was turning into a police state, every1 said BS rubbish or hes full of it but it is well on its way.

I am Dutch and thus live in Europe.

Dude get your head out of your ass, you are comparing Europe to the US? Cmon dude, thats not comparable.

Police State, here's the definition:
The term police state is a term for a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population, especially by means of a secret police force which operates above the normal constraints found in a liberal democracy. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.

The classification of a country or regime as a police state is usually contested and debated. The classification is often established by an internal whistleblower or an external critic or activist group. The use of the term is motivated as a response to the laws, policies and actions of that regime, and is often used pejoratively to describe the regime's concept of the social contract, human rights, and similar matters.

Wiki Pedia - Police State

You wanna say that the US is doing this? Cmon, you sound like a stereotype redneck that bitches on the politics, but never try's to take action.

And what the hell has NAFTA to do with Europe? Your dragging in stuff that doenst have anything to do with Europe..


As i said before read up before you are gonna yell something.. And study the diversity of the people in Europe, once you have done that you might realize that a law like that aint going to be there.

[SilentTrigger]

"all the EU would have to do is enact a series of laws or regulations and just like the EPA standards they would have to follow them or go out of buisness, that is how the EU and governments controll their citizens, by enacting a law or regulation the people have to follow it of they will become criminals and be arested or fined or both."

EU doesn't consist of a president that make all laws a fact, there is a "president" but it's the induvidual countries that got the power and not the induvidual leader there for passing a law is extreemly hard, especially a law that effects countries economicly. There is less then 1% chance of that being passed, if every country agrees that the small enviromental impact these cars (they are supercars and there for few) have is worth the extreem sacrifise it has on the economical side. And if you remember the Euro issue you will realice that getting something through in the EU is extreemly hard. It's not one single nation, it's several nations that has taken a central discussion platform to help the overall area but the induvidual countries still have the power. It can not be compared to United States which is one single country where the states are united. This is infact the case in Sweden too. Different "Län" can pass their own laws but they still are controlled by one single government.

[Mauser 98K]

ok, went a little nuts, so EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT///\\\\@#%%^...

this sumes it up without the wirtie dords

[Chrispy]

Okay okay okay, everyone relex. Inhale... exhale. Repeat this step a few more times.

Chris

[Mauser 98K]

lol

[panzer]

aw...damn

[panzer]

I'm gonna cry...bye-bye my very sweet Audi and BMW...

[katana*GFR*]

Ever heard of the edit button?

[DevilDog#1]

Originally posted by katana*GFR*
Ever heard of the edit button?

There's an edit button on this forum???

[katana*GFR*]

Originally posted by DevilDog#1
There's an edit button on this forum???

sigh.. it isnt just a part of the skin.. Teh image say's Edit.. Ok, i know we have to give you a manual with each function..