Israel should be ‘wiped off the map’ says Iran

[Trojan]

Israel should be ‘wiped off the map’ says Iran
By Gareth Smyth in Tehran

Middle EastMahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, Iran’s fundamentalist president, on Wednesday declared that Israel should be “wiped off the map” and warned Arab countries against developing economic ties with Israel in response to its withdrawal from Gaza.

His remarks, delivered at a conference in Tehran entitled “A World without Zionism”, led to diplomatic protests by the UK, France and Spain, while Shimon Peres, Israel’s deputy prime minister, said Iran should be expelled from the United Nations.

In Washington, spokesmen for the Bush administration said the statement underscored US concern over Iran’s nuclear weapons programme.

Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s comments came as Islamic Jihad, a militant Palestinian group allied to Iran, killed at least five Israelis with a bombing in the Israeli town of Hedera. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility, saying it was avenging Israel’s killing of a West Bank commander on Monday.

US analysts noted that the president’s remarks were not a departure from hardline Iranian rhetoric and did not represent new policy.

But they said the rhetoric was aggressive and badly timed, and would serve to confirm western suspicions of Iran’s more confrontational approach that were raised by the new president’s speeches at the United Nations last month.

However, European diplomats suggested the comments would not derail efforts by France, Germany and the UK to get Iran to return to the negotiating table and halt work at its Isfahan uranium conversion facility. One diplomat said the EU3 had made a point of keeping the nuclear issue separate from Iranian support for militant Palestinian groups during two years of talks.

“As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map,” Mr Ahmadi-Nejad said, citing Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of Iran’s Islamic revolution.

The president told an audience of students there was “no doubt the new wave [of attacks] in Palestine will soon wipe off this disgraceful blot from the face of the Islamic world”.

“Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury,” he said, in remarks aimed at Arab states.

Mr Ahmadi-Nejad, who took office in August, was departing from the moderate line of his reformist predecessor, Mohammad Khatami, who argued Iran should be no more radical about Israel than the Palestinians themselves. Reformist figures in Iran have recently warned that Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s stern rhetoric endangers Iran’s national interest and could encourage the referral of Tehran’s nuclear programme to the UN Security Council. Iran denies its development of the nuclear fuel cycle is for military use.

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[Trojan]

By JILL LAWLESS

LONDON (AP) - Governments around the world expressed shock and scorn Thursday at the Iranian president's call for Israel to be ``wiped off the map,'' and several summoned Tehran's envoys in their capitals for a reprimand.

However, Israeli calls for Iran to be suspended from the United Nations over the remarks by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were not immediately taken up by other nations.

In a speech Wednesday, Ahmadinejad denounced Israel and said a new wave of Palestinian attacks ``will wipe this stigma from the face of the Islamic world.'' Citing the words of the founder of Iran's Islamic revolution, the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Ahmadinejad said: ``Israel must be wiped off the map.''

Israeli Vice Premier Shimon Peres called for Iran to be expelled from the United Nations, but Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Israel had not decided whether to ask officially for Iran's removal.

Israel's deputy ambassador to Britain, Zvi Rav-Ner, said it was unheard of for a U.N. member state to call ``for genocide and wiping off of another member state of the U.N.''

``This is a clear contravention and breach of the U.N. charter and it should be dealt with by the international community,'' he told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard called Ahmadinejad's remarks ``dangerous'' and said they required a U.N. response, although he wasn't specific.

``To have the president of any country saying another should be wiped off the face of the earth is a reminder of the psychological pressure, quite apart from the actual pressure, that the state of Israel is under, and this obviously is an issue that the United Nations has to address,'' he said.

The 25 European Union leaders, meeting at Hampton Court Palace near London, also condemned the remarks, saying they ``will cause concern about Iran's role in the region and its future intentions.''

``Calls for violence, and for the destruction of any state, are manifestly inconsistent with any claim to be a mature and responsible member of the international community,'' the EU leaders said in a statement.

Relations between the EU and Iran have deteriorated in recent months after negotiations with Tehran failed to get Iran to drop its nuclear program, which the EU and the United States fears is being used to build weapons. Iran says its nuclear program is peaceful.

On Wednesday, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Ahmadinejad's remarks ``serve to underscore our concern as well as the international community's concern about Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons.''

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said the Iranian leader's comments were ``completely unacceptable,'' but when asked whether Iran should be expelled from the U.N., he said: ``I will not make any concrete proposal now.''

Britain's Foreign Office called Ahmadinejad's comments ``deeply disturbing and sickening,'' and said Iran's charge d'affaires would be summoned later Thursday.

France, Spain and The Netherlands summoned the Iranian ambassadors in their capitals to explain the remarks.

The German Foreign Ministry also called in a representative of the Iranian Embassy to protest the comments, while Italy said the remarks confirmed concerns over Tehran's nuclear program.

``The contents and tone of such unacceptable statements confirm worries over the political positions pursued by the new Iranian leadership, especially concerning the nuclear dossier,'' the Italian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, on a visit to Israel, criticized the Iranian leader. ``I don't agree that anyone should challenge the right of any U.N. member to exist, this is indeed inadmissible,'' Lavrov said.

But on Wednesday he brushed off Israel's calls for Security Council action, saying the matter is ``too serious to be guided by politics.''

Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Pierre Pettigrew condemned the comments in a strongly worded statement.

``We are in the 21st century. Canada will never accept such hatred, intolerance and anti-Semitism. Never,'' the statement said.

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This is completely insane and goes to show you that the Islamic World really does not want to peacefully coexist. The UN must take drastic measures to reassure the World Body that this behaviour can not go unpunished and the the 1945 Charter is still worth giving to and participating in. Very dangerous words indeed. I call for reform in the United Nations and I mean asap! -troj

[Sal UK]

Yes this is getting rather heated over here.

Blair issues warning to Iran

27/10/2005 21:10

Tony Blair has warned Iran that the world will not allow them to undermine international peace and security.

The move comes after the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be "wiped off the map".

The Prime Minister expressed anger and "revulsion" over the comments and said that the president's behaviour was "totally unacceptable".

He added: "There has been a long time in which I have been answering questions on Iran with everyone saying to me 'Tell us you are not going to do anything about Iran'.

"If they carry on like this the question people are going to be asking us is 'When are you going to do something about this?'.

"Can you imagine a state like that with an attitude like that, having a nuclear weapon?"

The Prime Minister said that he would be consulting over the coming days with Britain's key allies over what steps they could take.

"I am sure that there are people in Iran in the leadership who believe the world is sufficiently distracted with everything else that we cannot afford the time to focus on this issue. I think they will be making a very big mistake if they do that.

"If they continue down this path, then people are going to believe that they are a real threat to our world security and peace."

Mr Ahmadinejad made his comments at a conference in the Iranian capital Tehran entitled The World without Zionism which coincided with Wednesday's suicide attack in the Israeli coastal town of Hadera which left five dead.

He declared: "There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will soon wipe this disgraceful blot (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world.

"As the imam (Ayatollah Khomeni) said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

EU leaders condemned Mr Ahmadinejad's comments in a joint statement.

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[Hellfighter]

I'm not shock at all, think Iran like the ID to destroy Israel totally, and the rest of the world with it to a later date.

all none Islamic country's will be their next targets after Israel or they do them all at the same time.

they have the Nukes briefcases (small Nukes) to do it with.

From U.K to Germany to USA to China to India after rest of the smaller country's, they would hit the larger super power country's first. like South America to Africa to Japan to Korea both parts, there be no stopping the terrorist bombers feed them nukes they go ape-shit all over the place. Iran is the real hot spot on the face of the planet. leaders there don't care who is who they shit on all as they like.

at lease Iran show their true color, they want war with the whole stinking world! i say let give it to them bomb the shit out of that power plant first and all near by building's to it. if a nuke goes off so be it. send them to the stone age.

[Erik]

Thats rather scary...Iran does have nuclear capibiltes too...

[BADDOG]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4384024.stm



All we've heard from Kofi Anan is that the U.N. is "dismayed" about the remarks made by this bloody lunatic in Iran, why oh why do we bother witht he bloody U.N.????


We cannot allow this rogue nation to develop nuclear weapons or they will surely use them hiding behind their bankrupt and lunatic "religious" beliefs!

Regards

[Erik]

Remember the League of Nations after WWII? U.N. just got a new name...still useless. Nothing good has come from them.

[NaughtyPerry]

this makes me laugh... I say just let them at it. aslong as myself or my family arent caught up with it, then just go ahead and blow the **** outta eachova, have a cuppa t, come to england and watch the sport with strawbrys and cream!

[Hellfighter]

Originally posted by PJ
this makes me laugh... I say just let them at it. aslong as myself or my family arent caught up with it, then just go ahead and blow the **** outta eachova, have a cuppa t, come to england and watch the sport with strawbrys and cream!

thats the thing after they are finish were you think they go nuke bombing afterward your home, you would not even know what hit you.......................you be dead and can't do a thing when your dead now can you. soul may cry out but thats all if anything.

[BADDOG]

Originally posted by Chief ADFP
thats the thing after they are finish were you think they go nuke bombing afterward your home, you would not even know what hit you.......................you be dead and can't do a thing when your dead now can you. soul may cry out but thats all if anything.

That is a very distinct possibility Chief and that is the most frightening thought of all if they get their crazy hands on nuclear weapons!!!!

Regards

[Erik]

Specially the wind carries the radiation...

[Hellfighter]

will these fool really don't give a d---- about other's. only their way of life, if your not part of it they wipe you off the face of the planet too. by using a nuke handed out by Iran dimwit's leaders.

they are not scare to use nukes at all. terrorist are fool bombers, and Iran is more then happy to give it to them.

[Trojan]

Blair hails UN chief's Iran rebuke
28 October 2005

Prime Minister Tony Blair has applauded United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan for rebuking Iran over its president's call to "wipe Israel off the map".

In a rare condemnation of a UN member state, on Thursday night Mr Annan expressed "dismay" over the remarks made by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The Secretary General said he would make peace in the Middle East the centrepiece of an upcoming visit to Tehran.

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Mr Blair's official spokesman said talks were under way at the UN over what action might be taken over Iran, and said he would not be surprised if the issue were discussed at Security Council level.

Britain was in "active touch" with allies, including the US, over Iran and had "no experience of people not being focused on the issue", he said.

At a regular briefing of journalists in London, Mr Blair's spokesman declined to be drawn on the prospect of eventual military action, insisting that the matter was being dealt with by diplomatic channels.

But he warned: "The danger is that Iran thinks that the rest of the world is diverted in some way from what it is doing and that it makes the wrong decision based on that view.

"As the Prime Minister said (on Thursday), the world is not diverted. The response of other world leaders and the UN has underlined that point."

On Thursday Mr Blair voiced his horror at Mr Ahmadinejad's comments in the strongest terms, at the end of a European Union summit at Hampton Court, Surrey, during which leaders of the 25-nation bloc issued a joint condemnation of them.

The Prime Minister said he was revolted by the "completely and totally unacceptable" remarks and said they risked persuading people that Iran was a risk to global security.

His spokesman has stressed the situation should not be seen as a confrontation between Britain and Iran, or between the UK and US allies and Iran. Other world leaders, including France's President Jacques Chirac, had also expressed their deep concern, he said.

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[Mauser 98K]

every1 is a target, if you are not like them.
they belive if you dont belive like they do over there that you are an infadale and should die.
there is going to be some nukes detonated,its just a mater of when and where , for you have 2 many nuts with the capabilitis poping up all over the place who hate every1 that aint like them and think they should die.
were at the begining of something horrable, for we are dealing with a people who wants every1 that isnt like them 2 die, who isnt afraid of death for they think if they die for their cause it is devine and thell get rewarded in heaven.
and thell do it to, thell blow themselves and the rest of the planet up in the name of jihad.

jihad, holy war,
what is so holy about blowing up people who are unarmed and blowing up children in the middle of a marketplace to get 1 person who aint like them.
and you cant tell them it was wrong ither, for thell say that it was a good death that they died for their cause and thell be rewarded in heaven.

we are aproching a big stink, and its gona hit the fan.
in the life of most living today.
some of us and our cildren will learn of this with their own eyes.

WW3 wont be fought traditionally but as skirmishes in 3rd world countries, and in our own cities and towns from cowardly attacks from a people who stand aganst everything we was brought up to belive in.

and it would be better if your close to a nuke detonation to die, for if your close to it but dont die, from the radiation burst of gamma,x-ray etc,,.
you start to have symptoms like the flu, hair starts to fall out, nails get brittle and break, sores start to form on the body, teeth get loose and fall out,the skin affected starts to droop, you run a fever of 104.5*F, the toung starts to fester, the eyes get all swolen, ya puke up everything you try to eat, you go blind, ya cant sit for more than 10- 15 minits.
ya lose all controll over body functions, the affected areas of the skin slit like a sunburn and fall off exposing muscle fibers and opening you up to serious infection.
the toung now starts to rot the eyes to shrivvle, ya start to bleed everywhere, all the while you feel like your on fire, till you finaly die.

thats just some of what a nuke can do.
in reality it is much worse, it says in the bible that there will be a time that the living will envy the dead, and this would do it,
all the pestelence that pops up after from the dead and from the fallout, can and will distroy the rest of life in the affected areas.
there is also a passage from the bible that says,
their skin shale consume away while they stand on their feet, and their eyes shal consume away in their holes and their toungs shale consume away in their mouths.

im not trying to scare any1 but this is reality, and if they use nukes this is what we can look foward to.

[Hellfighter]

Mauser 98K
thanks for pointing that out, great to know.