A new game engine? (Physics)

[Cody 7]

Hey everyone,

The Delta Force games have been around for a very long time. I was quite impressed with the new releases (Such as Joint Ops, DF-X) But there's always something missing.

Body / Object physics. "Ragdoll" physics has been around forever (i even remember physics in a 1995 PC game called "A-10 Cuba"). But, for some reason Novalogic has never implemented any kind of physics in any of thier games. I mean, in my opinion, a game that doesn't have this system always feels "incomplete". Call of Duty 2 is a great game that i just got, but i'm extemley disappointed that the game still uses animations. I mean, the fast paced movies they make look so un-realistice because of the animations. I really think the whole "BlackHawk" engine that Nova's games use is just obsolite. I mean, with the netcode in BHD your ping would never go under 250 MS in most cases (horrible by most game's standards).

What's your opinions?

[MightyViking]

I agree something is missing. And I never heard of A-10 Cuba well I guess I have to agree on your part buddy

[Mauser 98K]

DFX has a good physics engine if nova had a clue as how to set it up.
ive been thru just about all of the data files and most of the stuff is severly incorrect.
i have done modifications to it to get it to be more realistic and so far i am actually enjoying how it is turning out.
the game is actually a challenge now, provided the person that sets up the game has a clue as to what he is doing.

[Webviper2006]

Yep I agree

[Mstenger404]

BHD for PS2 and XBOX has rag doll physics

[Mstenger404]

oh wait, hang on, the XBOX version doesn't have rag-doll physics, it uses the same engine as the pc version

[.DareDevil.]

I have made a topic on NovaWorlds site under suggestions section and it gave them 15 direct ideas that would make anyone buy there game if they made it with them.I know what everyone wants cause i myself want it and seen some ideas but most posted were mine there so go check it out.

[Scott]

The problem with novalogic is they do everything in-house.. and they are not a big company like ea.. If you look at all there past titles, every single one of them (even df1) came out with an obsolete graphics engine.. But to be honest I dont care much for great graphics and all the little realistic things.. Ill I want is for SOMEONE to make a game worth playing.. I'm probably pretty harsh but the FPS games that are coming out for PC now and in the last year just suck (for me anyways)...

[Mstenger404]

comanche 4 was top of the line, ign gave its graphics a 9.5

[-Tigger-]

yeah a 9.5 how many years ago?

[Mstenger404]

when it came out. as long as the graphics weren't obsolete like other games

[Cody 7]

Well, Nova's games are a little bit behind... I've never seen any Direct X 9 stuff (Like bump-mapping, explosion shockwaves) except for heat blur in thier new games like DF:X or JO. And that stuff has been around since late '03 or early '04!

Oh, and to Mauser98K's post, - DF:X does have physics? The only thing it must have physics too are the explosion shratnel.
Lol, it's kind of ironic - physics for particles like that are the last thing people are going to notice

[Lucky]

i really wanna see the physics, where you die if you in 30ft of a grenade or if your beyond at least deadly dammage

[Mstenger404]

BHD, JO, and DFX have bump mapping, and physics in vehicles getting destroyed