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Old 02-28-2012, 10:59 AM
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New gadget

Bought myself a Blu-Ray burner as an early bday present.

First burn task is to backup 120 GB of photos

Then alot of other backup tasks

The drive is a Lite-on iHBS112 12 times speed and supports BD-RE DL

http://us.liteonit.com/us/bd-interna...ternal/ihbs112
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:17 PM
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Hmmn I still don't even have a blu-ray player..

Nice buy
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:46 PM
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Bought myself a Blu-Ray burner as an early bday present.

First burn task is to backup 120 GB of photos

Then alot of other backup tasks

The drive is a Lite-on iHBS112 12 times speed and supports BD-RE DL

http://us.liteonit.com/us/bd-interna...ternal/ihbs112
I see you understand the need for Hard BackUps

BTW do you think we can trust SSD's
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:08 PM
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BTW do you think we can trust SSD's
Yes.. Just as reliable as a hard drive
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:16 AM
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Could we say that the chances of Data Recovery are equal in a given scenario or better in favor of?
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:52 AM
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what is the scenario? it's difficult to compaire a mechanical hdd fault to a ssd fault? infact imo there is a lot less to go wrong in an ssd than a mechanical drive.

data recovery would be exactly the same so long as there is a software fault or user error, but if there is any hardware faul then grab your backups no matter what drive you have

i know early drives were poor but really things have been much better for some time. some of the manufacturers really screwed up but now most of the major players roll out firmware updates if problems arise, i think most recently crucial updated their firware where the M4 drives were repeatedly turning off after 5184 hours


@blu ray , dont buy a br drive just to watch films on your pc, it's a pain in the ass. sounds great for backup tho!
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:04 AM
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I heard that SSD purposefully skips overwriting sectors in the drive because after a certain amount of writes the sectors start to fail. It is a lot of writes but...

Just wish the cost wasn't so high and that I had dual hdd bays in my computer.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:42 AM
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I heard that SSD purposefully skips overwriting sectors in the drive because after a certain amount of writes the sectors start to fail. It is a lot of writes but...

Just wish the cost wasn't so high and that I had dual hdd bays in my computer.
Skipping overwrites might reduce fragmentation?
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Actually it increases the external fragmentation (which really isn't a problem any more because a lot of modern OS's have use active defragmentation ). It would decrease spatial locality performance though (which also doesn't matter due to practically no seek time).
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mmm, if they get to 512GB for Under US$200 then I'll go get one I think
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:24 AM
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Just to clarify what I was saying, the drive should last as long as a normal hard drive would. I was just stating a fact heard from Kingston's SSD seminar.
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Just to clarify what I was saying, the drive should last as long as a normal hard drive would. I was just stating a fact heard from Kingston's SSD seminar.
Good advice and well received, thank you.
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Also fragmentation isn't an issue with SSDs. It can be fragmented up the ass and still perform like the day you got it.

However, if your SSD has a lifespan measured in read/writes, defragging it will burn through it the fastest so never defrag an SSD.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:10 PM
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Yeah, good point.
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Also fragmentation isn't an issue with SSDs. It can be fragmented up the ass and still perform like the day you got it.

However, if your SSD has a lifespan measured in read/writes, defragging it will burn through it the fastest so never defrag an SSD.
All these strengths and then this warning are starting to rattle my main weakness, doubt.
There has to be some sort trade off here surely? The tech is new.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:37 PM
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The tech ain't that new, it's been used in servers, military applications, industry and reacearch from somewhere near the 1970ies. Just that it's now been made affordable to produce to the open consumer market
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The tech isn't new but the storage size has gotten a lot cheaper like ST said. I think it was back in 2005-ish when they were able to get some obscene storage sizes on small chips (hence the SD cards that are like 64GB). When I went to Brazil in 2005 the average size a thumbdrive could support was 256 MB. When I got back they had 8 and 16 GB flash drives. Crazy how much it changed in two years.
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