France!

[DevilDog#1]

You don't give up do you?


Not at the cost of younger generation we don't.

[JonM]

grr double post

[JonM]

Originally posted by DevilDog#1
You don't give up do you?


Not at the cost of younger generation we don't.

i fight for what i believe is right ... anyways i'm confused:

what exactly does "Not at the cost of younger generation we don't. " mean?

? lol maybe it's to intelectual for me*[-Edit] but i can't figure out what you mean (tell me so i can argue some more )

[SilentTrigger]

Originally posted by ®ampage
i agree with elite anymore, we intervened to help Somlia, to stop genocide, but we did learn a couple lessons, from it, America will sacrafice soldiers life's to help other's, which is what makes us proud of our soldier's and nation

And you mean that no one else does?

[BADDOG]

I think to be fair Silent, America always seems to be one of the first nations to react to certain situations that develop around the world. They do have the military power to do so and in many cases if they didn't the number of dreadful massacres world wide would be much higher.

What ever the reasons the troops on the ground have a very difficult job to do so I for one say God Bless America and it's soldiers for the fantastic job they do under often very difficult circumstances.

Warm Regards

[SilentTrigger]

No question that they usually do a good job (theres always exaptions) but its not only American soldiers who put their lifes at stake to protect others, or even getting killed for protecting others, America can only be on a few places, the rest is where other countries take as their mission.

Like Kongo where Swedish and French SF fought against the (still do, but not SF that i know of) rebels helping to save the civilians life that often are at the other end of the rebels guns.

[Lakie]

OK first ill state that i support troops in any conflict, it is not the troops i have a problem with, i wish them every sucess in their job and hope they do it to the best of their ability, its the whole operation that i may have issues with....

Also i think regarding the whole USA issue, we as the global community only tend to know about military issues that the US have a major part in and other tend to be ignored by the rest of the world. For Example in 1999 Interfet (mostly aussies but some others) went into East Timor to stop the violence and facilitated it to being recognized as a seperate independant sovereign nation.

The Solomon Islands is another example, at both these conflicts lives were lost but i reckon 99% or you didnt even know about it...

Back to France:

1. There would be no USA if it wasnt for France, so lay off em a bit
2. The French are very nice people, expecially when you get outside Paris, the french now-a-days mostly are just playing on the reputation, similar to me showing you you that video of the first time i wrestled a croc. Remember to the rest of the world your all gullible americans (again another stereotype...)
3. The french are responsible for alot of what your system is made up of, the idea of the citizens right to own arms is, yes its true, its FRENCH!!! As is the idea of the seperation of the Executive, the Legislature and the Judiciary and a whole stack of other stuff....

Also lets not forget that Iraq and the USA were best of friends not that long ago....

[SilentTrigger]

Offtopic, wrestled a croc? Didn't see that, is there a second chance to see it?

[Lakie]

Originally posted by SilentTrigger*MFA*
Offtopic, wrestled a croc? Didn't see that, is there a second chance to see it?

I rest my case.

[KU43]

sure. france is a joke. the reason they all voted againest the euro constitution is it wasnt enought communuist 4 them. why and how does anyone need a constitution the size of a phone book?

[SilentTrigger]

Originally posted by KU43
sure. france is a joke. the reason they all voted againest the euro constitution is it wasnt enought communuist 4 them. why and how does anyone need a constitution the size of a phone book?

i take that as a joke again, that or just a flame towards the french people.

[JonM]

Originally posted by SilentTrigger*MFA*
No question that they usually do a good job (theres always exaptions) but its not only American soldiers who put their lifes at stake to protect others, or even getting killed for protecting others, America can only be on a few places, the rest is where other countries take as their mission.

Like Kongo where Swedish and French SF fought against the (still do, but not SF that i know of) rebels helping to save the civilians life that often are at the other end of the rebels guns.

nvr said it was only america, atm i was only talking about america. Many other countries do it to, and i think it's one reason the world is so great

[DevilDog#1]

Originally posted by -Elite-
i fight for what i believe is right ... anyways i'm confused:

what exactly does "Not at the cost of younger generation we don't. " mean?

? lol maybe it's to intelectual for me*[-Edit] but i can't figure out what you mean (tell me so i can argue some more )

LOL!

What I meant was you'll be surprised how many YOUNG people are being shipped to fight abroad. And when these people come back, injured, crippled, or in a body bag, what do you think happens to them? At the age they should be enjoying the life they have seen so much violance, blood, and gore that they have bad dreams about it all their natural life. Thus, creating a generation, similar to Viatnam, the after affects of which still haunt lot of people.

East Timor ... That's another thread

[JonM]

talk to the young soldiers, don't tell them how they feel.

[DevilDog#1]

Originally posted by -Elite-
talk to the young soldiers, don't tell them how they feel.

If you want them to be normal integral part of the society after have a war experience, you better be ready with some solutions.

Just talking doesn't help. Empathizing helps.

[JonM]

yes but people are constontatly talking bout how soldiers feel, but i nvr see any action taken to actually ask them how they feel.

[DevilDog#1]

That's because people who have experience any kind of brutal violence tend to suppress or block the feelings. Letting them know BEFORE they leave for war helps them prepare better and when they come back they can COPE with it better.

[atholon]

About what Rampage said...

It all is according to your beliefs. Some people would rather do it (deploy troops) as a last resort. Maybe that is what the French are doing. The Japanese thought it was honorable to kill themeselves by crashing into a target when they got done with their bombing mission.

Maybe that is what France thinks the US is doing in a lesser extreme (killing soldiers with Families when there may be other ways).

[KU43]

i take that as a joke again, that or just a flame towards the french people.

no im not flaming the people. im flaming the government and not just the french but all governments because in the long run they are all the same. always getting all they can from their citizisons

[SilentTrigger]

Originally posted by KU43
i take that as a joke again, that or just a flame towards the french people.

no im not flaming the people. im flaming the government and not just the french but all governments because in the long run they are all the same. always getting all they can from their citizisons

So this thread has nothing to do with France besides the fact that their government is as screwed up as all the other governments?