Tables & Your Desingn = BAD! good read :)!

[JonM]

Okay I'd just thought I'd spread the word. I rember vaugely hereing that using tables to make your design is bad but i dind't know why. Now I know, and I'm def. standing by the no tables idea. It saves you bandwidth, makes faster page loads, increases your ranking in search engines, makes it easier to change the design without spending the time going through tables etc...

Here are the reasons in a nice little list and why those reasons exsist:

• Search engines love clean code. And using tables to make your design does not mean clean good code. It is using bad methods. Cleaner code = higher rankings.
• Faster page loads. Simply put tables mean higher load time. Users must download this presentational data for each page they visit, which is not good
• Makes re-desinging the site easier. Re designing is simply put, a hard task if you use tables design. However redesigning is simply put not hard if all you have to change is one.css.
• Table sites will appear blurted and very unorganized, and bad on a thing such as a PDA, or a Cell Phone. Clean code changes this.

Here are some links for more indepth looks on the matter:
http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/
http://www.codingforums.com/showthre...585#post181585

Now I want to clarify. A thing such as a message board does not apply to this. Tabular data or things such as Records for instance a news script can use tables, that is not bad. Simply using tables for design is bad.

Your opinions on the matter? I may start to make my designs without tables now.

[DevilDog#1]

Using CSS to make designs here

[JonM]

Cool! do you have MSN? you can add me if you like

My Work one (on most): phpfreakjon@hotmail.com
My gaming more or less anyone can add me deal lol: elite_ksk@hotmail.com

[JonM]

Also adding on, for people like me who have a basichandle on CSS but are looking to become pros at it and make any design they like I have the official manual

Link: http://www.phpfreaks.com/css_manual/...r.html#minitoc

[DevilDog#1]

Ah good old PHPFreak. Was a regular there at one time.

[BeBop]

I still dont see the downside of using tables, just use gzip compression and uses classes. I can update all my layouts (That have tables int hem) by just changing my CSS file... I guess your talking about people who put their style codes directly inside the tables?

[JonM]

Hahah don't use the "your" cuz i'm not talking, those were reasons that came up when i was researching the problem . I thought of that too actually (update table styles) but I think I will stick w/ CSS layouts mainly cuz of searchengines/cell phones