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Old 08-31-2005, 08:15 PM
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Is your son a computer hacker?

Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
By: T Reginald Gibbons

As an enlightened, modern parent, I try to be as involved as possible in the lives of my six children. I encourage them to join team sports. I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises. I keep a fatherly eye on the CDs they listen to and the shows they watch, the company they keep and the books they read. You could say I'm a model parent. My children have never failed to make me proud, and I can say without the slightest embellishment that I have the finest family in the USA. Two years ago, my wife Carol and I decided that our children's education would not be complete without some grounding in modern computers. To this end, we bought our children a brand new Compaq to learn with. The kids had a lot of fun using the handful of application programs we'd bought, such as Adobe's Photoshop and Microsoft's Word, and my wife and I were pleased that our gift was received so well. Our son Peter was most entranced by the device, and became quite a pro at surfing the net. When Peter began to spend whole days on the machine, I became concerned, but Carol advised me to calm down, and that it was only a passing phase. I was content to bow to her experience as a mother, until our youngest daughter, Cindy, charged into the living room one night to blurt out: "Peter is a computer hacker!"

As you can imagine, I was amazed. A computer hacker in my own house! I began to monitor my son's habits, to make certain that Cindy wasn't just telling stories, as she is prone to doing at times.

After a few days of investigation, and some research into computer hacking, I confronted Peter with the evidence. I'm afraid to say, this was the only time I have ever been truly disappointed in one of my children. We raised them to be honest and to have integrity, and Peter betrayed the principles we tried to encourage in him, when he refused point blank to admit to his activities. His denials continued for hours, and in the end, I was left with no choice but to ban him from using the computer until he is old enough to be responsible for his actions.

After going through this ordeal with my own family, I was left pondering how I could best help others in similar situations. I'd gained a lot of knowledge over those few days regarding hackers. It's only right that I provide that information to other parents, in the hope that they will be able to tell if their children are being drawn into the world of hacking. Perhaps other parents will be able to steer their sons back onto the straight and narrow before extreme measures need to be employed.

To this end, I have decided to publish the top ten signs that your son is a hacker. I advise any parents to read this list carefully and if their son matches the profile, they should take action. A smart parent will first try to reason with their son, before resorting to groundings, or even spanking. I pride myself that I have never had to spank a child, and I hope this guide will help other parents to put a halt to their son's misbehaviour before a spanking becomes necessary.

1. Has your son asked you to change ISPs?

Most American families use trusted and responsible Internet Service Providers, such as AOL. These providers have a strict "No Hacking" policy, and take careful measures to ensure that your internet experience is enjoyable, educational and above all legal. If your child is becoming a hacker, one of his first steps will be to request a change to a more hacker friendly provider.

I would advise all parents to refuse this request. One of the reasons your son is interested in switching providers is to get away from AOL's child safety filter. This filter is vital to any parent who wants his son to enjoy the internet without the endangering him through exposure to "adult" content. It is best to stick with the protection AOL provides, rather than using a home-based solution. If your son is becoming a hacker, he will be able to circumvent any home-based measures with surprising ease, using information gleaned from various hacker sites.

2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing?

Your son will probably try to install some hacker software. He may attempt to conceal the presence of the software in some way, but you can usually find any new programs by reading through the programs listed under "Install/Remove Programs" in your control panel. Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash".

The best option is to confront your son with the evidence, and force him to remove the offending programs. He will probably try to install the software again, but you will be able to tell that this is happening, if your machine offers to "download" one of the hacker applications. If this happens, it is time to give your son a stern talking to, and possibly consider punishing him with a grounding.

3. Has your child asked for new hardware?

Computer hackers are often limited by conventional computer hardware. They may request "faster" video cards, and larger hard drives, or even more memory. If your son starts requesting these devices, it is possible that he has a legitimate need. You can best ensure that you are buying legal, trustworthy hardware by only buying replacement parts from your computer's manufacturer.

If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well.

4. Does your child read hacking manuals?

If you pay close attention to your son's reading habits, as I do, you will be able to determine a great deal about his opinions and hobbies. Children are at their most impressionable in the teenage years. Any father who has had a seventeen year old daughter attempt to sneak out on a date wearing make up and perfume is well aware of the effect that improper influences can have on inexperienced minds.

There are, unfortunately, many hacking manuals available in bookshops today. A few titles to be on the lookout for are: "Snow Crash" and "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson; "Neuromancer" by William Gibson; "Programming with Perl" by Timothy O'Reilly; "Geeks" by Jon Katz; "The Hacker Crackdown" by Bruce Sterling; "Microserfs" by Douglas Coupland; "Hackers" by Steven Levy; and "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" by Eric S. Raymond.

If you find any of these hacking manuals in your child's possession, confiscate them immediately. You should also petition local booksellers to remove these titles from their shelves. You may meet with some resistance at first, but even booksellers have to bow to community pressure.

5. How much time does your child spend using the computer each day?

If your son spends more than thirty minutes each day on the computer, he may be using it to DOS other peoples sites. DOSing involves gaining access to the "command prompt" on other people's machines, and using it to tie up vital internet services. This can take up to eight hours. If your son is doing this, he is breaking the law, and you should stop him immediately. The safest policy is to limit your children's access to the computer to a maximum of forty-five minutes each day.

6. Does your son use Quake?

Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers. It is a popular meeting place and training ground, where they discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms. Many hackers develop anti-social tendencies due to the use of this virtual world, and it may cause erratic behaviour at home and at school.

If your son is using Quake, you should make hime understand that this is not acceptable to you. You should ensure all the firearms in your house are carefully locked away, and have trigger locks installed. You should also bring your concerns to the attention of his school.

7. Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour?

As a child enters the electronic world of hacking, he may become disaffected with the real world. He may lose the ability to control his actions, or judge the rightness or wrongness of a course of behaviour. This will manifest itself soonest in the way he treats others. Those whom he disagrees with will be met with scorn, bitterness, and even foul language. He may utter threats of violence of a real or electronic nature.

Even when confronted, your son will probably find it difficult to talk about this problem to you. He will probably claim that there is no problem, and that you are imagining things. He may tell you that it is you who has the problem, and you should "back off" and "stop smothering him." Do not allow yourself to be deceived. You are the only chance your son has, even if he doesn't understand the situation he is in. Keep trying to get through to him, no matter how much he retreats into himself.

8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"?

BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone.

Your son may try to install "lunix" on your hard drive. If he is careful, you may not notice its presence, however, lunix is a capricious beast, and if handled incorrectly, your son may damage your computer, and even break it completely by deleting Windows, at which point you will have to have your computer repaired by a professional.

If you see the word "LILO" during your windows startup (just after you turn the machine on), your son has installed lunix. In order to get rid of it, you will have to send your computer back to the manufacturer, and have them fit a new hard drive. Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface.

9. Has your son radically changed his appearance?

If your son has undergone a sudden change in his style of dress, you may have a hacker on your hands. Hackers tend to dress in bright, day-glo colors. They may wear baggy pants, bright colored shirts and spiky hair dyed in bright colors to match their clothes. They may take to carrying "glow-sticks" and some wear pacifiers around their necks. (I have no idea why they do this) There are many such hackers in schools today, and your son may have started to associate with them. If you notice that your son's group of friends includes people dressed like this, it is time to think about a severe curfew, to protect him from dangerous influences.

10. Is your son struggling academically?

If your son is failing courses in school, or performing poorly on sports teams, he may be involved in a hacking group, such as the infamous "Otaku" hacker association. Excessive time spent on the computer, communicating with his fellow hackers may cause temporary damage to the eyes and brain, from the electromagnetic radiation. This will cause his marks to slip dramatically, particularly in difficult subjects such as Math, and Chemistry. In extreme cases, over-exposure to computer radiation can cause schizophrenia, meningitis and other psychological diseases. Also, the reduction in exercise may cause him to lose muscle mass, and even to start gaining weight. For the sake of your child's mental and physical health, you must put a stop to his hacking, and limit his computer time drastically.

I encourage all parents to read through this guide carefully. Your child's future may depend upon it. Hacking is an illegal and dangerous activity, that may land your child in prison, and tear your family apart. It cannot be taken too seriously.
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this is the biggest load of bs ive ever read

[/edit] i cant belive it cause this dude know nothing bout computers. Amd=crap? no, amd pwns intel
i reqest new hardware all the time..
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Old 08-31-2005, 08:50 PM
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very good to read, its not the kids who get into hacking its the people they meet online who lie and trick them into doing it. hacking is some thing to lrean and if some one show you the shortcut on doing it and make it seem its fun, then the kid turn into a hacker monster. it so easy like a cheap laugh they get to bug others on-line and hack into things they known better not to do.

me i would have instill Norton Goback and lock it on restore every freaking night to way the father set it up as.

not even windows updates will stay on the HHD.

he could have call the local law enforcement ask them to teach their son why it bad and why it can get their family into trouble.
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that is the most retarded thing i have ever read
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article almost convinced me that i was a hacker
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the message "this will disable it" should have been put before

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WOW what a load of bs..... I cant imagine that guy actually means it....

man i would love to see him and point some fact into his mind....
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Interesting article but I do wonder.....


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omfg, haha, i thought the story was going to take a turn for the worse, like i had no option left but to turn my son into the police, but omg it got worse, i guess i'm a hacker..

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changing isp's lol, that does not mean your a hacker.. haha i feel bad for his kids, the model parent, if that was my dad i would kill myself

omg dude this is funny, dressed differently, bright colors wtf?!, is your son obsessed with lunix? is he spending more than 45 minutes a day on the computer, omg dude hahah

edit again.. this is what he said about amd.. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well.
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i guess im a l33t h4x0r after reading that. I have all the symptoms
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panther, you have even radically changed your appearance?!?! you now wear glow sticks?
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in the service were dress up funny in the bush.

we had this one guy we use call him; caveman he cover him self (4-basic colors) camo-sticks to color the skin with, i known one guy he really love to do it all over were there was skin open to the eye or not he put it on there.

even on his Private Parts too, if you a man you got to wipe it out to use it so why not camo-sticks it too. he use to say, now retire from the service thanks god for that.

i meet him in a Infantry company training in the wood with 150 guys, we help to camouflage each other faces normal but seen this guy all done get up take his pants off in-front of other start to do his legs and feet and so on. every one look away saying this guy is nutso about them camouflage sticks.

the US-Army must be loaded with a lot of hackers dressing funny out of the normal.

by the way i use to put mud into my hair! so it would not shine like crazy to. do that make me a woods punker hackers j/k
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more than thirty minutes per day?!?!?! i spend about 6 hours a day, maybe more....


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This bloke is an IDIOT!? Talk about over concerned, like most of you I spend hours upon hours on the computer just mucking around (80% playing games)...ask for new hardware OH NO he's an automatic hacker!!!

I find programs I dont remember on my computer all the time...even though im the only one who uses it but then I remember afterwards that I put them there the night before - does that make me a hacker even though i have NO INTERNET AT HOME!?!?!

lmao...glow sticks thats good

Hacking manuals? Are there such things???

And just because his son did this, does it automatically make everyone's son an instant hacker??? What about chicks? IDIOT!!!

ROFLMAO this is the funniest load of bs ive ever read. Some people...
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Hacking manuals? Are there such things???
asker is; yes

there are pdf and you can buy the manuals/books.

alot of IT techs read them all the time, but it the way you use the info.

to me it not bad to know these info its only like a knife you use in the home, the knife can use to cut meat up, but then again it can be use to kill people with. it counts how you use that info.

i even seen a site have a hacker manuals on how to hack hotmail accounts and making viruses to steal account from other members on the internet. this is not new but they are out there.

these site i have gone hunting for and reported them in. i can say i had 5 hackers sites close down and some of them i even told panther about it here. i mean i don't like virus at all and i find a site with that type info i bust my balls to get them remove. who like worms i don't
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yea you can get them from book shops, theres about 30 books on hacking in a shop near me :/
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that is the most retarded thing i have ever read
Hahaha I must be a hacker then I fit a lot of those profiles... most I have ever done was use net send to scare people at school

Two guys at my work would bring in hacking books. They were both really good net security guys
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Hahaha I must be a hacker then I fit a lot of those profiles... most I have ever done was use net send to scare people at school

Two guys at my work would bring in hacking books. They were both really good net security guys
yep thats a good reason to read them books to cover areas that need to be watch over.

like a said its the way one use the info.
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