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Old 03-24-2006, 05:40 PM
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slain because boy wouldnt call his lesbian mother's lover "daddy"

Four-year-old Jandre Botha disobeyed an order to call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy''.

So the lover, Engeline de Nysschen (33), viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her "Daddy".

Jandre died from his injuries, which trauma expert Professor Mohammed Dada said were similar to those of a person who had fallen from a double-storey building.

Yesterday Vereeniging Regional Court magistrate Rita Willemse found De Nysschen and the mother, Hanelie Botha (31) - who did nothing to protect her child - guilty of murder.

Jandre's father, Jan Botha, sat in court holding the hands of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, and listened attentively to Willemse, who, in her judgment, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "Daddy".

The court had heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter Aletta Lesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschen had viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her "Daddy".

Both testified that while Jandre was assaulted, his mother failed to intervene or protect him. Evidence showed he had sustained horrific injuries, including a fractured skull and brain damage, as well as broken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.

Delivering judgment, Willemse acknowledged there was no substantial evidence linking Hanelie Botha to the assaults, but said she was equally guilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her child against abuse and violation.

The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medical doctors who treated Jandre, by saying the boy got his injuries after he had slipped in the bath.

The court ruled that she had lied to protect De Nysschen. The doctors who had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he had slipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflict the kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.

Convicting the two, Willemse dismissed their version and said there was substantial medical evidence before her about the nature of the injuries suffered by Jandre.

"I accept the evidence of the medical personnel who are experts in their fields. There were substantial documents placed before me. Most of them have medical experience which spans over a period of 15 years.

"All of them have dismissed the version of the accused and were unanimous that the deceased's injuries were inflicted over a period of time.

"It is unthinkable that the mother of the child could not have known about these fatal injuries. The deceased also had broken legs, and his mother should have been aware of this."

The magistrate criticised Botha for failing to report Jandre's abuse at the hands of her lover to the social workers monitoring Jandre's progress, after she had gained custody of him during a lengthy court battle with her ex-husband. She also failed to report the abuse to her ex-husband.

The boy's father became aware of Jandre's abuse only on the day of his death, June 12 2003. De Nysschen contacted him and said Jandre had fallen earlier in the day and had died.

Willemse criticised Botha's fitness to be a mother, saying her parents later approached her ex-husband and gave him financial help to fight for the custody of his child.

Rebuking Botha, Willemse said: "Hanelie was not helpless. She was well aware of Engeline's violent outburst.

"She could have called the child's father for help but she failed to do so. She did nothing to protect her own child."

The magistrate labelled Engeline a liar and a hopeless witness who had contradicted herself in testimony.

Botha and De Nysschen were further convicted of assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide or seek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures. The case was postponed until June 26 for a pre-sentencing report.
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Old 03-24-2006, 06:29 PM
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fry them both, feel really bad for the father.

kid stand to his ground shame he had to die for that reason.

i don't care if they are same sex or not, you don't force a kids to call some other person their dad or mother if they really are not that at all.

the name father or mother are call that out of love of the child.
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:23 AM
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i wouldnt call her daddy...............
but why like kill her
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Old 03-28-2006, 01:19 PM
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why would she want to be called daddy? there must be somthing screwed up just for that

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Old 03-28-2006, 02:04 PM
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wow why... im speachless thats very sad.

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Old 03-28-2006, 03:42 PM
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[b]So the lover, Engeline de Nysschen (33), viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her "Daddy"
Lucky you mean why kill the boy?

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i wouldnt call her daddy...............
but why like kill her
some : lesbian or should say gay couple like to be seen and asker as the sex they are roll playing.

in this case one was weaker then the other and the stonger party female (roll play as male father) gone over broad and kill the kid off.

i don't think it a good ID for same sex to have kids, but thats me. forcing their view on life stlye on the kids is not right at all. its a bet to much and may get out of hand and some one may get hurt. in this case a child paid the price death.

the father should had the kids all this time. think there should be a review to see if the same sex couple can handle kids if not. no kids for them at all.
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