Don't get me wrong players, I'm not whining. I am discussing when I HOST that I have seen players over and over again Base Rape.. and I am not talking about 5 times... I'm talking about at least 7 plus. Now yes, it does fall on a skilled player to get out of tight ass situations but how about the newbiies that dont' know any better? I mean I enjoy having 16 or more players having fun when I HOST. And I do agree, Base Rape'in does happen on just about every FPS. Its something that you can't seem to get away from and it comes with the territory. What I am saying is not fair, (not really a cheat--excuse me last post) is when a player "stays" (mostly prone) and waits for his or her "victims". I mean they never go looking for any other targets, just that one spawning area. A lot of us skilled FPS players look for the fray in searching for other targets because we know that is where the challenges are. But there are those that feel that they sould just stay in one place to aggravate another player intentionally by killing them everytime they spawn. On another note, it is very hard to try not to kill another player that just so happens to spawn not to far from you and you see them. At the same time you have others shooting at you. So, with that much going for a player... your just gonna say, "Hey.. I found a spawning point.. if I make it pass the other 3 or 5 players trying to kill me... I'll just wait here and rape that player over and over again for kicks..." I've seen it happen more than a few times. I have friends that HOST some of my maps and we all get together to talk about how to handle situations like that when it comes around. But we do warn the players if we know for CERTAIN that they are Base Rape'in (not assuming)... if they get ignorant and talk ****, then to hell with the 3 warnings.... they are history.