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KU43 05-02-2005 12:53 AM

gun control
 
I just visited the web sight handgun control. It sickens me how this shara brady prays on the fears of uninformed people to donate to their cause. This poor excuse of a human should be jailed for fraud, at the very least. She cuts herself off the top of these donations $900,000.00 a year, and thats not including the $3 or $4,000,000 her husband gets. For over 25 years she has wheeled her husband ,james , who i call side show brady, around playing the victom. She is smart enought to knows out of the 200,000 gun laws on the books not one has ever reduced crime and has only made it easyer for the bad guy. For her to use fear and out right lies to further her own gain, like i said, sickens me. There are laws to take care of people like her, but our gun grabben government looks the other way. The IRS could imprison her the rest of her life if they ever took a look at her books. But it will never happen.There are plenty of links on the sight to send your money but not one to contact them to let her know how 90% of America thinks of her handgun control con game. Only on judgement day will shara brady get what's coming to her.

Hill Humper 05-02-2005 01:36 AM

I don't really know where this came from. Just a litte rant. You might give us the website so we can view it.

But I agree with you, gun control laws are fairly rediculous. I don't agree with the sale of assault rifles, or m82 sniper rifles. I saw a program (60 minutes or 20/20) where this guy from kosovo bought and shipped more than 5,000 M82's from America to Kosovo in the mid 90's. And he did this all fairly legally. He bought the weapons legally, the only illegal thing he did was transport the weapons through commerical airlines like American Airlines and planes like that. Then a middle man in Switzerland would pick them up, and then take them to Kosovo.

KU43 05-02-2005 06:38 AM

the web sight is http://www.handguncontrol.org and a assult rifle is either full auto or select fire weapon not a simi-automatic you have been listening to to much tv news. hype words like saturday night special and plastic gun are straight from handgun control. if you belive anything on that sight give me the chance to show you it's a lie

Mike Edit: Fixed URL

Rampage. 05-02-2005 07:19 AM

blah, its not our fault people use guns wrong, they need to stop :)

atholon 05-02-2005 08:20 AM

I just think for handguns they need to make it harder for criminals to get. :|

BADDOG 05-02-2005 09:02 AM

Since we banned handguns here in the U.K. after the Dunblane massacre, we've had a huge increase in gun crime!

It seems the criminals can get hold of guns but the honest citizen can't get a gun to protect himself!

Fight with all your might against gun control in the U.S. guys after all guns don't shoot people, people do!

Regards:mad:

atholon 05-02-2005 09:13 AM

Aren't they illegal in Austrailia too?

HellBoy 05-02-2005 09:18 AM

Guns were designed for one purpose, to kill. As a police officer I don't see a lot of M82 in the hands of bad guys.

I live in Massachusetts in the U.S.A. We have probably the strictest gun laws in the country. It has not reduced violent crime one bit. Badguys, do not buy guns in stores. They break into peoples' homes and steal their safes or lock boxes and then use those guns to commit crimes.

I own an "assault rifle", a Colt M4 .223 fullauto. Why is it more dangerous than a pistol, because of distance? Both can kill.

People need to wake up, there are 230,000,000 people and 300,000,000 guns in this country. Protect your right to protect yourself and your loved ones.

Lakie 05-02-2005 09:20 AM

nope

1. Gun laws are constitutionally a state issue, to say they are banned in australia, even if they were is wrong since we have 6 seperate laws depending on your state. It would be like saying that gay marriage was legal in the US when only a few states accept it. (going back a while no)

2. If you have a reason you can just about have any weapon, including as i have heard m-16's, reasons inlcude sports, collecting, gun club, family heirloom, employment and so on. Firearms doo need to be registered generally and you do need a license.

atholon 05-02-2005 09:23 AM

:| so much for getting facts from a TV show :p

Stephen 05-02-2005 09:45 AM

well my veiw on this is gonna be alot diff from most cuz i have seen what the large cal rifles and weapons do to people since i was in iraq. and i can tell u a 22 pistol kills u just as fast as a m60 or 50cal. i own tons of weapons myself and all are locked up and ammo separated when not in use. i think its a good idea to teach the youth at a young age about guns and how to use them so they don't do this stuff and no right from wrong. and the issue about crime it will never end look how much crime went up in the early days of the states when they took booze away from us just think what would happen if guns where takin away. but thats just my opinon.


oh and mike ur right u can get anykind of gun if u have the right
lisence for it. my father was lookin into getting a silencer for a rifle we have cuz we where gonna work for the state and help control the deer in NJ. but say u wanted auto its not hard at all u just have to find a good reason y u needed it and the goverment willl give u the licenes.

Mr. T 05-02-2005 09:53 AM

I am as "Pro 2nd Amendment" as they come (here in the U.S.). It always drives me crazy to hear people who actually think that when you take away a law abiding citizen's gun, you somehow prevent crime and senseless killing. When was the last time you saw a "bad guy" turn in his guns when the government put a ban on them? It just doesn't work, and why this is so hard for some to understand boggles my mind.

Lakie 05-02-2005 10:19 AM

ok but how do you explain the 330 gun deaths we had in 2001 as opposed to the upwards of 12,000 (i think, off the top of my head, correct me if im worng) they had in the US in the same time period. DOnt say population, taking that into account were still way way lower.

Mr. T 05-02-2005 10:36 AM

I guess I would "explain" that by saying we have way more "bad guys" than you do...

It certainly isn't because I or my friends or any other law abiding, gun owning folks were out shooting and looting...

HellBoy 05-02-2005 10:40 AM

Mike, I believe the difference is that this country (U.S.A.) was born as a result of the gun. Not that the mentality that started this counrty has anythin gto do with today's violence but our criminals are better armed as are our citizens. What the ratio of guns per person in the U.K. or Australia? What again is the ratio of murders per gun?

SilentTrigger 05-02-2005 01:03 PM

I'm defenetly pro gun laws :)

DevilDog#1 05-02-2005 01:06 PM

I think anyone who does not own a gun should get a free Kevlar Vest from gun manufacturers. :naughty:

atholon 05-02-2005 01:07 PM

Haha true that..

I was thinking last night...if I was the President...I'd wear Kevlar every time I wasn't in my room.

Dr. Bullet 05-02-2005 01:58 PM

I think certain types of gun control should be in place. If you are a felon or convicted criminal, guns should be off limits. This doesn't mean that they won't get them, but it will provide a way to punish them further if they are caught with a gun.

Otherwise, I think it should be mandatory to take a gun safety class, such as the hunter licensing program we have here in Oklahoma. In order to hunt anything, you have to go through a class and take a test. It doesn't have any actual gun handling, but it's a start. Then, once you have that, you should be able to buy any weapon available.

One way or another, people are going to have guns. It's a simple fact, and nothing will change that. Gun crime will only rise if guns are taken away. Like KB said, look at the ban on booze back in 1919. Not only did it not achieve the effect they wanted, it made drinking even more of a problem PLUS made many gangs and mobsters, plus a few backwoods yokels, rich from speakeasies and moonshine.

DevilDog#1 05-02-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DevilDog#1
I think anyone who does not own a gun should get a free Kevlar Vest from gun manufacturers. :naughty:
I don't think everyone is capable of handling a gun, fellon or no fellon. But I think Vest option is more viable. This way gun manufacturers will make sure who has the guns and who don't and not every bozo will get it. :D


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