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Gentlemen, Im gonna be honest with ya's. I am dissapointed with my new computer. Its locking up up the ass through hell and back.
_________ when I first put it together, i set it up next to my moniter, ran it, sure since no OS was installed and windows vista cd wasnt in the drive it would just go to POST and that would be it. So i restarted and put my vista in the drive and let it run. Then it would lock up. I reset, and had at it again, it would get slightly farther then lock up. my brother gets the bright idea to dissable the USB ports in the BIOS (no mouse from this point on) and Vista gets even farther, then locks up. once again I reset and Vista completely installs... then locks up. I go over and enable the USB ports again so I can use my mouse... ...I go on ahead and log in, it wants to customise and all that stuff, i click no and dont show me again. I go on ahead and install the motherboard chipset drivers, during the time it wanted to restart, it would go a DOS like command line and say its missing a line of code. I just hit the reset button and it just goes back into vista just fine and finishes installing the chipset drivers just fine... then I install the VGA drivers just fine, after a good and successful restart I install Crysis, the system locked up attempting to do so. i reset and go on back in and Crysis installs just fine, I download and install the patches just fine. I open up crysis to run just fine. I check the options just to look at them, I was very thankful that it defaulted them all on High, im sure a GTX280 could handle Very High anyway. I begin a new campaign and it plays that video that always plays when you want to start a new campaign. then it gets to the part of the video that shows nomad going into maximum speed... then the system locks up.... so i reset, and try to run crysis again, well when you first start up a game it wants to show the developer's and publisher's logos you know? it got to Cryteks logo and was like "maximum, Ga..." the system locks up... I get the bright Idea of updating the BIOS to the latest version, IT DOESNT HELP AT ALL! I download rivatune for my video card and see that the fanspeeds was defaulted at 25% at all times, I change that to fan speed to run at 100% at all times... IT ACTUALLY HELPS!! I actually made it ingame to see the sheer power of my GTX280, extremely high framerate at 1200x1024 on High settings... then the system locks up... :| well im honestly all out of ideas to try and fix this thing, do any of you guys have suggestions? |
lol, i try to edit my forum post and... the system locks up :D
the boot time is suprisingly fast, from power off to being able to log in takes less than 20 seconds. Velocirapter 300gb 10k RPM for the win! |
there is something going with your hardware, i don't think it the video card, more like something other.
if you can get to event view log you can look up application's or system log there you see error reports listed that may show why system is locking up. sorry don't know about vista i think Scott has it. he or other maybe able to point you to event logs reports |
Sounds like hardware conflict.
Do you see what the IRQ's are? |
person i think it was a bad install of windows vista you may have to redo it over again.
if there a option to so you don't have to install driver for hardware like you have a newer driver/software save on a CD for your video, you should be able to concel it and go on to the next step of install. reseting it as it install can make things really bad |
I'd try these guys: http://www.techsupportforum.com/
They know a lot more than I do. I honestly have barely even touched vista. :) |
temps ok?
if i did a new build that was that bad, i'd rebuild the whole lot and start from scratch. PC spec? |
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crashing new PC for the lose :p |
this may look dumb but, how do I bring up the event log? >_>
btw thanks ath, I just posted a thread on that site. |
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I had Rivatune moniter the GPU temperature while playing crysis in a window, when the temperature went up to 61 C it locked up.
I rebooted and tried again, this time, when it got up to 60C i would exit the game, it actually made it out without locking up, im not sure if this is a problem with the motherboard at all. My GTX280 is cooled by its own fan running at 100%, one of my case fans is blowing air directly on it. any suggestions on how else to get it cooler? http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...emperature.jpg heres the PC on my newegg wishlists http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=12336367 |
I hear that there are a lot of issues with 64 bit vista and video drivers.
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can you show me a link to a place that has complaints about it?
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Well it was someone from dell and a few other places.
I hear it mostly involves Radeon cards though so that's probably not it. If you have an XP CD, I'd install it and see if it crashes ;) |
there has been no 64-bit driver issues for ages, even before sp1, especially with ATi gfx cards, maybe the only thing left is the x-fi sound cards but even they are fine running beta drivers.
the gpu is not too hot so that's not the prob. i think it's unlikely to be the gfx drivers if it's crashing during vista install. i think vista lets you know if an app or driver takes a dump, it would just shut the app/driver down and not the comp... but with it being a new card i just dunno if u can rule it out 100%, unless you see any change from trying different gfx drivers - latest vs. beta there doesn't really seem any new chipset updates for your board either everything installed ok in the device manager? cpu temps? just go around and reseat every card and cable, it wont do any harm :) tried just one stick of ram? |
Steve im gonna give this all a shot when I get home from work which should be 7 hours from now. 60 degrees C sounds really hot to me, my old computer never got anywhere near there.
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lol, after i read all the way to the last sentence, i'm like, well then why do u need help? then i saw the ...sytem locked up and i'm like lmao! sorry dude, i don''t know to much about computers :(
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but if u can check ur cpu temp that would be good to know |
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I agree with steve, you might want to reseat everything and test the memory. Here's a cool diag tool: http://www.memtest86.com/ doubt it is bad memory but some stuff does show up with defects sometimes. |
what's with the owned sign?
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i'm guessing with it being a new system, he's using a SATA DVD drive? I could not get Vista to install properly using my SATA dvd drive, and I'd heard something about a patch that allowed vista to install from SATA drives, but that doesn't really help you before you've installed My friend said he fixed it by installing from an IDE DVD. |
To work around this problem, use either of the following methods:
• Restart the computer. Then, try to install again. • Remove 2 GB of RAM, and then restart the installation process. After Windows Vista is installed, reinstall the RAM. Also: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777 |
hey where do I go to check the CPU temps? is it a 3rd party software? it had better be free...
I cant try all of your suggestions until tomorow, i g2g2 bed |
in the BIOS
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I tried a program called coretemps and while playing crysis, the average temperature was only 60C for the CPU. So is 60 degrees bad for the CPU, but just fine for a GPU? :O
I took a stick of ram out and then tried playing crysis, and it only went for an extra 30 seconds before freezing then i just decided to shut down and put it back in. now specifically for my chipset, the north and south bridges have have a particular cooling line running over them, in the instruction manual the fan that goes on there is called the "optional fan" "used with liquid cooling" I assume If i had liquid cooling I would send it through there and let the fan keep it a little more cooler. Is there a way I could watch the bridge temperatures without using BIOS so I can play a game and watch it? |
Is this any good? I haven't tried it but my mates reckon it's great:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...-Edition.shtml Quote:
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everest is brilliant if u have never seen it, check it out.
in the main window there is a icon called sensors (i think...), just click that and it will show all the temps. (including cpu gpu northbridge hard drives and more) probably the best tool just for testing cpu temps is TAT: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...ysis_Tool.html sometimes the BIOS temps can be misleading, often it shows the cpu temp but not the actual core/die temps. however 60 is pretty hot for a core2, they are very cool running chips. i know they are different chips but my mate's 6300 runs about 30 degrees at stock, and my x6800 runs about 50 degrees with extra voltage going to it. they should not freeze though at 60 degrees :/ had mine lock up when i put 1.6 volts through it and did a stress test, it went to 85 degrees in about 2 seconds and froze :D |
that makes sense, when I was installing my CPU, the instructions made no mention about applying thermal paste, so I looked at the bottom of the fan and saw a grey looking thinkness to it, I couldn't tell if it was all apart of the cooler block or if it was a factory applied thermal paste of some sort. I thought it was pre-applied stuff so I didn't worry about it and just put the fan on as it was. Besides, I know for sure I placed 2 lock pins to secure the fan in place, I wasn't too sure about the other 2 pins.
Ill re-install the fan and this time im gonna make sure I did it right. |
I'm sure I did it right this time, I applied new thermal paste and installed the fan as according to the instructions, but while re-installing crysis, the temperatures of the CPU cores got up to 70C, a bunch of crap fans Intel sells with their processors, I might as well just bought the OEM and a 3rd party fan, save me some money and keep it cooler.
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As it turns out it WAS THE CPU FAN!!!
wow am I stupid, I first put it in half-assed where you should put the most attention into installing it. I don't know whats more fragile, the CPU, or the CPU's warranty. but now its don't freezing so its smooth sailing from here on! Crysis, UT3, Gears, Arma!! HERE I COME!! oh and lets not forget Far Cry 2, whenever it comes out... |
so it's all ok??
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: |
90% yea its A-okay. 10% of me sais I should get a new cpu fan to make sure it never happens again, hell the one that came with the processor has a circular copper base and it Doesn't even cover the entire processer!
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will if you know the type of fan you need to match with your CPU it be a great item buy up. atless you know how to mount it good and tight
i been really thinking of getting a water cool system for my CPU, house get like 85F-90F the CPU fan going like crazy only thing is i am scare if it leaks will it do more damage lol but you can control tempiture you like it tobe on the outside of the tower case. |
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that's because the cores/die are in the middle of the chip: http://www.cooling-station.net/news/...kentsfield.gif freezer pro is pretty popular: http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=79&disc= is pretty good, very cheap, very easy to fit and very quiet, and supports PWM which i'm pretty sure your motherboard will provide for the cpu fan at least. i use a Tuniq tower: http://www.tuniq.com.tw/Cooler%20Info/Tower-120.htm never have to put the fan on any other setting than lowest, so pure silence :) , bit of a bugger to fit though as it needs a backplate on the back of the mobo to stop it ripping the socket off the motherboard when you stand your case up :D hehe |
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